9tailboy Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 (edited) HOW?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!??!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!??!??!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!??!?! Ok for the people who say its confusing, I'm trying to say how do we have a latron prime(meaning it must be tenno origin), but we get the wraith version(grineer origin), its literally the same problem as braton prime and braton vandal(corpus origin). Earlier last week I posted a topic called valkyr prime impossible, and through my investigations, I have found 3 results that correlate with the existence of valkyr, one of which I named the creation of prime fusion. Prime fusion is the concept that any weapon/warframe of an origin can still be transmutated to another origin(moa-fusion moa, braton prime and braton vandal, etc.) So this must mean my theory confirms this very event. Btw check out my forum post valkyr prime impossible, I will greatly appreciate it:https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/298099-valkyr-prime-impossible/ Edited August 31, 2014 by 9tailboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trowicia Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? I don't understand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat_Jam Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 "Latron Wraith: How?" If you mean lore-wise it's probably just the Red Veil getting their hands on it :0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_Vauban Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Wat... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegamer118 Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 well that was pointless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-FV-Runehawk Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 NANI SORE?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senketsu_ Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 NANI SORE?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! ooooohhhh I know what that means XD anyway, and here I thought I was going to be able to beat down a complainer. But you cant beat anything down if there isnt even anything there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherIcarus Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Just going to say Correlation =/= Cause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoopStricken Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 NANI SORE?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwBFZwFxVpc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9tailboy Posted August 31, 2014 Author Share Posted August 31, 2014 Just updated this forum post, for all the confusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoopStricken Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Just updated this forum post, for all the confusion. Wraith does not seem to equal Grineer. Wraith is Red Veil, who apparently just take any old weapon and modify it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ionus Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Strun was the first Wraith and it is a Tenno weapon.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaugahn Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 You can't turn a modern item into a prime. That's against the rules. However we know that primes can be reverse-engineered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9tailboy Posted August 31, 2014 Author Share Posted August 31, 2014 Strun was the first Wraith and it is a Tenno weapon.. But we don't have a strun prime, that means, its still viable to be of different origin, the wiki guesses that it is a prime due to it's ammo stock insigna, but we have yet to confirm that, thats why the latron has it's own special topic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9tailboy Posted August 31, 2014 Author Share Posted August 31, 2014 Wraith does not seem to equal Grineer. Wraith is Red Veil, who apparently just take any old weapon and modify it. Then why are most wraith weapons origin to grineer? Machete, vipers, gorgon, strun is a contestant in this, but latron is completely different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9tailboy Posted August 31, 2014 Author Share Posted August 31, 2014 You can't turn a modern item into a prime. That's against the rules. However we know that primes can be reverse-engineered. Primes are reverse-engineered, thats what the corpus did to their moas, added void origin products into them and created the fusion moa, therefore, my theory on prime fusion confirms this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xozzy19x Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 (edited) I bealive that the red veil make the wraith weapons, the vandals could be made by another faction. Or what I personally bealive is that wraith/vandal weapons are just novelty items that dont contribute to the lore. They are just for fun. Edited August 31, 2014 by xozzy19x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaugahn Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Primes are reverse-engineered, thats what the corpus did to their moas, added void origin products into them and created the fusion moa, therefore, my theory on prime fusion confirms this. Fusion MOAs are reverse-engineered from Orokin technology. Primes are Orokin era originals. You couldn't ever make a modern day prime. Just integrating Orokin technology doesn't make a gun prime, look at the Seer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9tailboy Posted August 31, 2014 Author Share Posted August 31, 2014 (edited) Fusion MOAs are reverse-engineered from Orokin technology. Primes are Orokin era originals. You couldn't ever make a modern day prime. Just integrating Orokin technology doesn't make a gun prime, look at the Seer. THATS WHAT PRIME FUSION IS!!! The fusing of prime parts into a another faction, but in my concept, thats just one rule of it, the other thing about prime fusion is that a weapon has a counterpart, that is from another origin, like the examples I said. Vandal<Braton>Prime Wraith<Latron>Prime Vandal<Lato>Prime Wraith<Strun Wraith<Machete Wraith<Dual vipers Wraith<Gorgon Prova>Vandal Snipetron>Vandal Edited August 31, 2014 by 9tailboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaugahn Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 THATS WHAT PRIME FUSION IS!!! The fusing of prime parts into a another faction, but in my concept, thats just one rule of it, the other thing about prime fusion is that a weapon has a counterpart, that is from another origin. Weapons with Orokin parts incorporated aren't prime though...if I take a Russian assault rifle and give it an American barrel, that doesn't make it an American assault rifle. Anyways, there's nothing wrong with Latron having a wraith version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ionus Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 But we don't have a strun prime, that means, its still viable to be of different origin, the wiki guesses that it is a prime due to it's ammo stock insigna, but we have yet to confirm that, thats why the latron has it's own special topic We have tons of Tenno weapons without primes, that doesn't mean they aren't Tenno, does it? You can see Tenno script on the stock and it is nearly identical to the boar, which DOES have a prime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoopStricken Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Then why are most wraith weapons origin to grineer? Because there are only three factions to choose from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReaperSticks Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 SO BASICALLY, A long time ago there was the latron prime, the modern weaker version is the Latron the latron wraith is a version made by the red Veil, the red veil got their hands on the normal latron and then turned it into the wraith version, so the answer is the Latron Prime is the oldest, then latron, then latron wraith the new modified version Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9tailboy Posted August 31, 2014 Author Share Posted August 31, 2014 (edited) Weapons with Orokin parts incorporated aren't prime though...if I take a Russian assault rifle and give it an American barrel, that doesn't make it an American assault rifle. Anyways, there's nothing wrong with Latron having a wraith version. Thats called interchangeable parts, replacing parts with identical pieces, we are talking about something different, we are talking about the origin of weapons and how they relate to one another in a way. Edited August 31, 2014 by 9tailboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaugahn Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Thats called interchangeable parts, replacing parts with identical pieces, we are talking about something different, we are talking about the origin of weapons and how they relate to one another in a way. This guy explained it pretty well: SO BASICALLY, A long time ago there was the latron prime, the modern weaker version is the Latron the latron wraith is a version made by the red Veil, the red veil got their hands on the normal latron and then turned it into the wraith version, so the answer is the Latron Prime is the oldest, then latron, then latron wraith the new modified version Codex entries for Braton and Burston prime confirm that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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