DerGreif2
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8 hours ago, Devz1 said:
That's it really. Let me know what you think
I agree with the things you said. Her Hysteria should be active when you press the button and not after the animation where she stands in one place and does nothing for 2 seconds.
The idea for the 3 sounds interesting.
Also a clear yes for the 1.
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Dog and Cat like frames? Sure why not.
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14 hours ago, peterc3 said:
When was she special? When was any frame really special? She defines the berserker archetype. How does she not fit the role of a melee based frame?
Every frame has a theme so any frame is some kind of special. If you dont see that then I dont know how to explain it to you. Valkyr also has a theme dont get me wrong but to be as efficient like any other frames without abilities in terms of melee combat if not worse it... just bad. She just gets speed and armor... you can acquire speed on other frames with Berserker or (Primed) Fury and the armor is just a bad "damage reduction". When you look at how many frames have 90% damage reduction and then you look at Valk... it gets pretty obvious.
17 hours ago, CrazyValkyr said:Whatever they do, if ever, with Valkyr, they better not touch Warcry.
I agree. Its the only part of her kit that is rely good. but even then it bugs out if you have to much power -.-
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42 minutes ago, nlas-slayerkane said:
why change what isnt broken ?
She is outdated. She is not special anymore nor does she fit the role of a berserker or melee based warframe in the moment if you compare her to other frames.
49 minutes ago, peterc3 said:This is going through my head with every single Valkyr rework suggestion.
Because why? Do you play Valkyr alongside other characters? Do you realize that you have often the same impact if not a better if you just using a frame with a melee weapon than using Valkyr with a melee? Thats a pretty bad thing IMO.
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3 hours ago, (XB1)GearsMatrix301 said:
But valkyrs claws have a stupid fast attack speed which helps it proc status more often then you’d think,
It has a status chance of 10%...
3 hours ago, (XB1)GearsMatrix301 said:multi hit combos to take more advantage of the combo multiplier, and the charge attack leads into a finisher. Valkyrs claws aren’t bad.
They are not bad. Thats the reason why I would not change her 4 at all but the other abilities.
3 hours ago, Autongnosis said:between the insane slide attack,
What? You can do that with every freaking weapon... also Maiming Strike. So that nothing that she is picked for.
3 hours ago, Autongnosis said:, the gladiator set effect,
It is a set and also usable at any other frame... so also nothing that speaks for Valkyr.
3 hours ago, Autongnosis said:, the ludicrous ground pond damage
Its not that high...
3 hours ago, Autongnosis said:and its retarded attack speed.
If we just had other weapons with a lot more range that could be better than her claws... oh. Right. Berserker and any pole arm, staff or whip crit weapon. Build a zaw and her claws look like a joke. The only special thing about them is life steal and I have a zaw that is with healing return much more efficient.
3 hours ago, Autongnosis said:It's the rest of her kit that needs an overhaul from the ground up :S
Just the 1 and 3.
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8 hours ago, auxy said:
If anyone reads this big wall of text, let me know what you think
Yes I read it and I agree with you. I was not sure how I could replace her line but with a strongly reduced energy cost and faster animations it could be usefull.
The thing with a finisher when using Pound is that it is almost like a ashe teleport and I would try to make it a little bit different.
Also I like the idea of a support warcry. That would really benefit low armor warframes when it would use Valkyrs armor values instead.
10 hours ago, lukinu_u said:4th power is for me, the only one that don't fit, it's very bad at dealing damages compared to most of melee weapons and give invulnerability which defeat the purpose of initial high health/armor and armor buff from 2nd power. I think they should change the invulnerability to something like 90% damage reduction, which would actually balance it and make the lifesteal from it useful, and give something to make her damage scale with enemies level. Increasing her damage by x% for each successive hit to the same target would probably work.
We dont need anothe 90% damage reduction but I like the idea of scaling damage per hit to also kill high level enemies.
Thank you all for reading. 🙂
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Hello there,
I dont know why but Valkyr is my favorite Warframe. Its one of the first Warframes I farmed the primed version for and since then I played her in all kinds of missions. But then I played other frames and Valkyr started to feel... not so special anymore. She is a melee frame but in the end she just gets more attack speed out of weapons and even then they bug out if you use to much power on her. So there is no real reason to play her. So lets begin with the problems.
Her 1: I dont know but I heard that in the past there where no such things as bullet jump or so. It came later. I have the feeling that her 1 is a relict out of that time where mobility was not so common. What I want so say is that her one is obsolete. You never use it. Vs enemies its a single target CC that more or less ragdolls the body across the room and for mobility you have wallcilmb and bullet jump that dont even cost energy and are better to control.
I think its about time that she gets some kind of a "anger restore" ability where she stores damage dealt to her over a time (like 15 seconds) and then gets a general damage and movement speed buff which gets stronger if you lose more health (also about 15 seconds long). Every 100 maybe +25% damage and +15% movement speed.
Then her 2. All in all its just a armor and melee speed buff. And the melee speed bonus is often bugged if you have to much power. I would change the speed to a simple melee attack bonus. That would make her the ultimate melee frame. We have mods like Berserker and Primed Fury that makes a speed buff often times just so fast that it bugs out and then... I would suggest give her a flat melee damage buff and remove the attack speed. Other wise it is fine.
Her 3... I dont really know why you would use a short distance CC that uses your shields as a resource. Finishers? Thats all it is used for. You dont really need that if you just could kill it with your melee weapon as a melee. You could use a dagger and CL to insta kill it yes... but then why use Valkyr in the first place for that?
I would suggest a leap to get into melee range like garudas 1. A simple jump with a cost of 15 or 20 energy and a rihno like shockwave that deals no damage but nocks enemies down in a 5 meter radius. That would help her to get into action pretty fast. Maybe a base range of 20m would be acceptable.
Her 4 would stay the same.
I really like Valkyr and I hope that DE revisits her. It is time to make her a true berserker and show the other frames what a melee based frame CAN do!
Thanks for reading.
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The title is not Ninjaframe its Warframe. Its less Nija and more Warriors since the beginning.
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Revenant is underrated... he does not need a rework. Believe it or not. Just because he is not OP does not say that he is bad. Wity the right build you can go ez vs any level of enemies and win. He is just not so interesting or OP in one aspect to be played by the majority. Still no reason for a rework... why does this community even want reworks for frames that are fine...
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Operator = Gimmick
Dont put to much effort in it. It's not worth it.
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2 hours ago, peterc3 said:
Let's shoehorn a system, from a game that was built with it in mind, into a game that was not designed around it being an option.
The D3 system does not directly translate to Warframe.
Tier 10 has the same modifiers as boosters you get from the Market. How is a high level worth DE giving away boosters? Also, this would completely destroy matchmaking.
If you grind things you dont take a difficult level. Even with a bonus of 100% it would take longer to kill a bunch of enemies at level 150 than at level 30. So it would just even out the effort. The one kills more enemys with lower and the other just a few high level enemies. Like I said: a level slider would not work because of matchmaking. Make a hard, master and grandmaster mode like in anthem and work with that kind of stuff.
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Hey I would consider myself also a Kitty main and have to say that your ideas... are not great at all.
I would suggest that her one should be what the hysteria augment is: a leap into melee range. She is a melee character so that would be better than the Ripline. I never used it ever and I play her a lot.
Her two is totally fine. I would like to see the melee speed gets changes to a melee damage buff. In the moment with to much power your weapons bug out. I understand the point of it but if we have such things like primed fury and berserker already it should not just be attack speed. But that's personal preference. And yo the aura as you call it: it's the same with 3. She is not a CC frame nor does she need it.
So yo the three: if you use it for damage... you do something wrong. I also dont dont like this ability so much because we try to half the already not existant shields. You should use 8t to engage a group of enemies then use it and do a finisher on the strongest target. I think that is the reason for that skill. But I also want to change that.
Now to Hysteria. Stop comparing Hysteria to Exaulted blade. They are totally different. In Hysteria she is immune and has livesteal so that she can recover lost health. I even build a new Valkyr prime to have a Warcary and a Hysteria Valkyr. I also think that it should be stronger but I would say: let us see what melee 3.0 brings. Steve stated that you can change weapons in hysteria with melee 2.9. If that's the case without going out of the mode or could be a timed God mode even without using the claws that also could be a lot stronger with the fixed range of primed reach then.
That are my opinions about this.
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Tennos should just be a gimmick and not for main things. I for example hate operator related things (also a reason that I just have dont Eidolons twice or so because of the operator usage). Tgey should not be even close to be so powerful as the warframes are. They are also a reason why they dont fight normally and let the warframe do the job.
So no. Dont give the operator more power.
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2 hours ago, MagPrime said:
But, that is the point of the daily cap. They want you coming back and earning it, otherwise people will get max standing in 3 or 4 binge sittings.
This. Also missions dont take so long that if you really wanted to grind something had to invest hours for the daily cap. Give it one hour (or 20 extractors at Pluto... forget the name again...) and it's done. The content right now is even suitable for people that just have an hour per day and with that some things would be yo do for players that have more time but hey I am is optimistic that wolf of Saturn could be some kind of "something to do".
In the end the system functions the way it should.
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I played a good amount of D3 and even to the highest level. It's pretty similar to Warframe because with the right build you can do anything. The cool thing about D3 is that you farm legendary items to try out new stuff. They also have an endless level (paragon level) that also have a skill tree.
So first of I would love such a system. Yes people could cheese it but that is not the point not to implement is. I would gladly take a not OP to such a mission to test me personal.
Then I would not change invisible frames. Maybe make some seeker annoys that can see and attack invisible frames but pls give them time to react.
So all in all I would love to see that kind of system but it would be different than in D3. A normal level slider would also be not enough. Lets see if DE sees it.
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1. You have to use it more carefully. I know it's annoying but it makes movement more interesting. We have enough ez things that dont take thinking. So a no from my side.
2. Dame as one. Keep it in mind and if you use it often maybe work on your playstyle.
3. I am with you here. It's important to have a good sensitivity. For a lot of people it would pretty great.
4. I dont know about that one but to customize it would be pretty cool to for some players. Also agree with that one.
5. No. Same as 1 you have to calculate it and there are a few mods that makes that better and benefit in other aspects so it would render some things useless so no. I also dont like that one.
1,2 and 5 are not QoL it just make the game easier as a hole. Dont like them.
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I have sometimes a problem to loead the newest threads (then I have to sort it to newest every time). But other than that I have no problems. Waht do you also mean by "main forum"? General forum?
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So first of I have read everything on this thread and I really like the ideas. Especially important for me:
- implement linear scaling for enemies
- removing +damage mods
- changing multishot
- cap armor on enemys
I would make the game a lot better in the moment its is like at the beginning really cool because we can kill the enemy but they are dangerous, then we get stronger and enemies are weak until a long mission comes along where we wait 30 min to have a good fight for the next 10 minutes and then we get enemy's that are to strong because of scaling. That is a problem. A huge problem. The only good thing in anthem is the fight system. You get a equip power level and the enemy scales to that level and stays that way. There are stronger enemies (elite and legendary units) that are a lot stronger and are pretty hard to kill. I would love to see that also here in warframe. In defense and survival there could just spawn "elite" units and then instead of legendary units we got eximus ones. That with nox and bursas could create a good around experience. I know that people hate the power level system because it locks them out of things but we dont have to give everything a "min power level of X" sign. In our case mods could represent power levels (indicating from bonus damage and so on) while all warframe have a level of 0 and also weapons. Just with the mods its gets harder. Thoughts about this? Otherwise I really enjoy this thread. Please keep up the work on it. I hope DE sees it.
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2 hours ago, Space0ddity said:
index
eidolons
bounties （both high level and low）
every non-mainline quest
orb mothers
fishing （newfrens dont have time for that or get any serious benefit until they can do t5 bounties）
hunting （where would a noob fit time in for this？）
sorties （assassination sorties are based，and theres something special about going through stuff like this together）
frame grinding，theres like 40 of them and half require you to reach endgame
arbitrations
fashionframe
zaw & kitgun shenanigans （if you can obtain them at a low mr you technically broke into endgame）
focus farming （you might think it's boring but think of it as the WF equivalent of pubbing in 2fort，just a relaxing meme experience。 especially if neither of you use broken frames。）
kuva floods
ESO
I think you overhype these things... a lot of these things are rather boring and just a few people find them interesting. its also a lot more fun to try it out alone instead of getting into everything in just a month...
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On 2019-02-18 at 11:10 PM, Space0ddity said:
starting out in WF is a nightmare if your best friend has 600 hours in already for the both of you, that much is guaranteed
i want to make a plan to grind to MR6 as fast as possible and boost him really quick so he wont spend half the time being completely useless. i'm not gonna subject my friend to 200 hours of looking at my shiny ass stealing all his kills.
here's my plan
day 1: install, tutorial finish, and meetup, i'll teach him advanced stuff like bullet jumping, and plat gift him a frame of choice
day 2: i taxi him to hydron and carry for a bit, help him level up his crap until mr1
day 3: repeat farming, make sure he makes it to MR2
day 4: indoctrinate him into clan, trade him damage mods for abilities and then primaries (he likes to play as spellcasters in ds3)
day 5: starchart
day 6: we should be at vor's by now, if not then we should have already killed krill
day 7: vorkrill and sarge should be dead, a big chunk bitten into jupiter, maybe go for broke and bust alad
day 8: taxis to hydron whenever starchart gets stale, main quests should start around now
day 9: second dream should be over right now, main goal is now to get all the important nodes, mainly t4 void
day 10: uranus and neptune should be done for, so should pluto. sedna should probably be a bit of a way through.
day 11: void should be reached, hains of charrow done for
day 12: sunbro here should be MR6, next 10 days are grinding for amp components in fortuna
day 22: bro now has: working amp, leveled frame, strong weapon, mr 6 minimum, and can now pull weight.
is this even possible? i just wanna help my G
And THAT kind of agenda is bad. Just plain and simple bad. You rush everything in a month. You can do that but he will experience nothing. You make an error like other stated. trust us. Its not worth the "end game".
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Dont boost your friends. Buy some Mk weapons and just get 3 mods and PLAY WITH him and not FOR him. If you do this it could make the game pretty boring. Dont do it. Let him explore the game. You dont have to rush.
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1 minute ago, Gurpgork said:
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Ok THAT is unexpected. But I think it just ends hysteria. Otherwise it would be a god mode with a long timer. Thank you for the information! 😮
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1 hour ago, Loza03 said:
You need to check up on your rules of the internet.
Specifically, the thirty-fourth rule.
I see you a tenno of culture as well.
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42 minutes ago, Gurpgork said:
Only her 3 and 1 need buffs. Hysteria doesn’t need any kind of buff whatsoever, considering that when the melee changes drop, we’re going to be able to use guns in Hysteria.
Nope. You cant use guns in hysteria and also melee 3.0 will not change that.
Reworking the "Help Clem" mission, new character.
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He would be good at it... once.