DroopingPuppy
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Well said. Archwings already have the similar problems but railjack is just got worse.
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Yeah, apart the man in the Wall, Orokins and Tennos are the most mysterious and supernatural being in the world, so I do think that they are close to the 'god'. At least they are far closer than the Sentients.
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1 minute ago, Itsmez said:
Well theyre as mutch of gods as i can say i am a god. As wiki states "The Sentients are an artificial race from the Tau System that were the chief enemies of the Orokin during the Old War." something that is artificial made cant really be god and they were originally made as terraforming tools, in fact you would think that those who made them would be the god, well atleast for them and those were the orokin who made them. And i doubt orokin are god.
As I said above, 'is it a real god or not' is not related with the topic. The world of Warframe does not have the concept of the godhood in the first place.
Nonetheless, I don't think that Sentients are considered as the gods. Perhaps some entity among them are considered as the gods in their own society, but we can't sure about this for we don't know their society(if exists).
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20 minutes ago, SneakyErvin said:
And we arent really talking metaphors here, we are talking actual godhood levels of power, that of the mytological kind.
Yes someone may be refered to as a god on the field in a soccer game, but that doesnt actually make the person a god. Just as a person being refered to as being hard as nails or solid as a rock doesnt really have any of the attributes that a nail or rock actually has.
What Itsmez refered to is what is needed to become an actual god. We've had normal people throughout our history that have had god status while being mortals, but they also had the power to inspire or invoke fear in their people to think of them as deities. The Orokin were man-gods in that same sense. They had immense technological knowledge that their slave tribe colonies simply didnt understand, so they were seen as gods. Just as Inaros was seen as a god, because the people didnt understand the highly advanced tech of a Warframe.
I don't think so. We are talking about the metaphor, NOT the divinity. The world of Warframe doesn't have the concept of the divinty and godhood at all, unlike D&D where the pantheons of gods are actually exists, are participate in the flow of the universe, give the power to the devout followers, and the essence of the god is an actual difference between the god and the mortal. Then why we need to talking about the godhood in here, the origin system? It is just out of the topic.
Perhaps, the man in the wall show the hint that the entity can be a real god or something similar, but that's all. At first there is no concept of godhood at all in here.
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2 hours ago, Itsmez said:
No. Here is the explanation on what is a god https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God
Yes technically you can claim yourself to be a god, but you need backing from people to it. People needs to believe it. But it has nothing to do with how strong you are.
You don't need to be a real god in order to be called as a god. And the word 'god' in metaphor does not requires it to be a real god either. Why you think about the real god in the first place? It does not needs to be, and it is simply out of point actually.
What something needs to called as a god is just the extraordinary ability that normal people think it is nothing but a god, or very wonderous that almost no one can do the same. Either the people just calls it a god by a metaphor(one of the most high expression that the being is how great) or really believes that it is a god, the reason and end result are same. It is an ordinary usage of the word 'god' - it does NOT only means the real god - so I can't understand why you are so strictly insist on the existence of the divinity. Especially on the setting that does not consider the divinity. It is, just irrelevant. I don't think that we should have a catachism about the real religions, do you? What we actually need to consider are metaphor, epic feats and belief, NOT the divinity and the definition of the god.
Also some of them may call themselves a god. It is just a self-styled title, but most of these entity will have the reason of their arrogance, at least. Only the most mad or ridiculously powerful creatures(usually both) are crazy enough to calls themselves a god.
Are Orokins the gods? Most of us will answer that they are not, but they are actually called as the god by many denizens in the origin system. For them, what Orokins did make them to think Orokins as the gods.
It is sad that they can't call us the god killers, because almost all of them are not aware that we Tenno are who bring the justice to foul Orokins, despite they are actually believe that Orokins are the gods.
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The thread only proves how dangerous Infested is. They are even able to hack the account of the Tenno and spread their false belief, and even Lotus can't block their IP.
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Yes, we know(or at least assumed) that Tennos are not the 'god' described by the real religions. But we may viewed as the gods by the normal people in the origin system. Just as they consider Orokin as the god(they really does in the Warframe world).
The point is, the word 'god' does not only means the real god. Something with godlike feature or power for someone can be also called as the god, either a metaphor or a real belief.
'Is it a real god?' is a debatable topic but it is fully depend on the definition of the creator(of the world). If DE says the Tennos are gods, they are the gods, and if DE says they are not, then they are not. But since the word 'god' also used as the metaphor for something with extraordinary power or potential, and it is possible that someone actually believe that it is actually the god after see it perform miracles, it is nothing wrong to say something with immense power the god.
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6 minutes ago, (PS4)ITS_TH3GOD said:
Well we(the tennos) arent really "gods" per se, imo I'd say we could be considered somewhat god-tier cuz there arent really any beings other than the void that can actually stand up to us, but no we arent omni anything cuz we actually need ships to travel from place A to place B, we also dont know anything going on in the universe cuz well as i said we aint omni anything...the void on the other hand is different.
We don't need the omni-something to be called as a god, you know. Think about 'Are we the real god?' is simply pointless and is out of topic.
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That's sad to hear sir.... Maybe you should try a support ticket.
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Well, but you know that the word 'god' is not only means the entity with omniscience and omnipotent, the one and only being, literally and doctrinally(of the real religions). A being that possess extraordinary power and ability can be considered as gods, by literary and metaphorically.
So ask about 'Is it a real god?' is simply meaningless actually, unless what you want to do is a catechism for the real religions on our real world. But it is clear that we don't have to and actually we should avoid the topic, so we should read it as the latter definition. You should remember that we are NOT discuss about our real world, in the first place.
For the latter definition, Orokin can be called as the gods, for their powers are immense enough to shape the world, until we had executed the justice. And because we slayed Orokins, normal denizens of the prime system may call us the god killers - as the worshippers of Inaros does.
It also means it depends on the viewpoint. The worshippers of Inaros calls Orokins(and their Dax puppets, if I remember correctly) as the gods, for what the Orokin can is can't be matched by them. But will you think Orokins as an unbeatable foe and should worship them? We Tenno are killed them for their crime, and they are history now, so Orokins were no more than the thugs with an undeserved power for us.
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23 hours ago, Kaotyke said:
Lets make a list of "Gods" in sci-fi games:
1) Albert Wesker (Resident Evil)
2) Gaius (Contra)
3) Master Albert (MegaMan)
4) Gravemind (Halo)
We know the result of such title.
That is the fate of the arrogance.
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Well, at least it is sure that we are the demon slayer, for we have purged Orokins.
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Bring back quick melee.... That's why I still abandon the melee weapon ever since the disaster have come and the Wolf was disappeared
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2 hours ago, (PS4)SektorZR1 said:
well then what's the point of bows? or silent weaponry in general?
As if there was a point on bows? They are the inferior weaponry already, along with sniper rifles. If we have the different playstyle then we may think otherwise, but no, for now what we need is to clear a bunch of enemy.
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Well said. I don't see the point on it. Why it doesn't just replace the finishers?
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The game is very unfriendly(also I am half believe that it is even hostile) to the newcommers. Unless we are do something to them they are barely survives alone.
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It is no more than make the cooldown to the ability, and we are spammed them anyways. Spend the combo counter to increase the damage seems already enough.
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On 2019-12-22 at 1:48 AM, Malkavian407 said:
Melee, after processing, turned out to be too powerful. That's cool! But often devalues other types of weapons. And Some combinations of certain Stances Mods are much stronger and more effective than others. It turns out that it is much easier and faster to kill 15-30 grineer Heavy Blade for a couple of clicks than to shoot each of the machine gun or rifle.(actually, this applies to any AoE-unbalanced weapons, but it's not about that now)
And I believe that stamina will different a means for balance, if correctly distribute its expense for every strike and fulfill consumption stamina for every Moba, which received damage from melee
IMPORTANT! When stamina depletion melee should not be blocked, only included penalties for damage and attack speed.Hell no. Why we are bothered to do that?
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23 hours ago, Cloud said:
I totally disagree. Not only playing in 8 will generate much more connection and stability problems, but it will trivialize all the missions removing all the fun within it. What is actually fun of the mode is that there are lot of things to do, and we're just 4, this encourage people to have good communication and push them to manage the time in an efficient way to cover more activities possible. With 8 players, everyone would just have their mini job and think only at that, making the mission just a boring repetition of the same stupid thing.
The problem is, you don't realize that railjack requires ridiculous amount of jobs to four of us. Three is the minimum crew of railjack, for one needs to grab the wheel, while at least one of them is need to get the side turret then the other Tenno needs to repair/repel boarders. AND we needs some fighters and boarding crews to get the job done. We needs too much crews already and it is not fun - it is just a mundane job.
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5 hours ago, reinforcers said:
what DE do are basically saying "slow down dude" 🙂, with the nerf now everyone have to "dogfight" instead of "sniping"
We are just became pacifists actually. The 'dogfight' can't make a successful shot either. Even the point-blank shots are easily miss the target.
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For me, although I use archwing, I return immediately when the catastrophic failure alert is poped while I am close to the railjack. Else you just face the consequence.
That said, requires to have at least two Tennos in the railjack is too painful. That's one of the reason to keep railjack out of combat.
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Even FTL can have up to 8 crews. Why not? Because Railjack requires so many default crews and we also needs infiltrators, we can't fill the roles only by four Tennos.
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2 minutes ago, Vit0Corleone said:
Not true. You just haven't progressed far enough to be able to do that.
The problem is, most of us are at the starting point or middle of the line, not end tier like you. Basic railjack is pathetic and it should avoid combat.
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1 minute ago, Vit0Corleone said:
It feels super weak when you're starting.
But with a proper build, you can easily out damage archguns, not to mention your Railjack is essentially unkillable.
Currently I play solo on the hardest Veil nodes almost entirely from inside my RJ, only using slingshot to hop on archwing and destroy Crew Ships or completing objectives, using omni tool to get back ( basically choice of archwing/archgun becomes irrelevant ).
The problem is not all of us are able to reach to it. If railjack in the mission is quite usable we will use it well, but it is that mission only.
Soo are we like god killers?
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Posted · Edited by DroopingPuppy
Even if something was created by the other, it can be called as a god as long as it meets some conditions, I think. But, we don't know the society of the Sentients for now. Perhaps, some of them can be worshipped by the gods in Sentient comminity? That's the only way to be called as the god to them.