Tekkaman-Blade Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 Correct me if I'm wrong, but was Scott's response to a key material being moved behind a grind wall simply a "working as intended"? This is sick and wrong. Put them back in Jupiter or Eris where they belong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris9428 Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 Well, it's not a grind wall. It's a wait wall. Though, you get a lot of samples in the derelicts. It's actually fine imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RahuHordika Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 Well Jupiter is becoming a Corpus gas station planet so.... But on the Eris part, DE has no excuse for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCatLad Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 This is sick and wrong. Put them back in Jupiter or Eris where they belong. ^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravefire Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 Just do defense derelicts and get tons of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterZalm Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 I get an average of about 10 from every derelict mission I do, I got over 400 right now. I dont see an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatantfool Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 I'm pretty sure he also mentioned the core reason for it was that Mutagens needed somewhere to sit that wasn't going to be touched while they work out where everything is going to sit on the map. Remember, Jupiter is being switched from Infested territory to a Corpus Territory. Might not be the only place getting changed too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Striyela Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 I don't see any problem with that. It's not even hard to get a key :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dallas Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 I'm pretty sure he also mentioned the core reason for it was that Mutagens needed somewhere to sit that wasn't going to be touched while they work out where everything is going to sit on the map. Remember, Jupiter is being switched from Infested territory to a Corpus Territory. Might not be the only place getting changed too. Why couldn't they just leave it at eris? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatantfool Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 Why couldn't they just leave it at eris? No clue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowTail Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 Why couldn't they just leave it at eris? If they had done that you would have had no reason to complain about it :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tekkaman-Blade Posted September 18, 2013 Author Share Posted September 18, 2013 No clue. Because they need us to have a credit sink and they needed to artificially increase clan tech research times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dallas Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 I swear they keep changing things that no one complained about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kespertive Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 I want mutagen samples too, but I'm not doing derelict missions because I don't have anyone to play with and I can't host because my internet is too slow for that... and alone isn't fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TunaMayo Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 (edited) Because they need us to have a credit sink and they needed to artificially increase clan tech research times.I dont think people would mind the credit amd resource sink if each ley didn't have a 1 hour wait time on it.Without a doubt, the 3 day research time on clan tech and the 1 hour wait on keys is to artificially increase "grind time". Edited September 18, 2013 by TunaMayo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aure7 Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 "Grind wall" is really wrong way to call it. If you're having problems finding navs then there're problems with you, probably with the fact that you rush and avoid containers and lockers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanilu Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 Regardless of where they get moved to it is still very easy to get them. Defense and Survival missions make it still fun/chaotic to get them. Yes it is a bit of a grind to get the nav coordinates, but opening all the boxes on a mercury mission gives me about 6 on average. Not to mention you get some while you are in the derelicts. As always, Master Thief is always helpful. Another part of me hopes that they add another enemy to the solar system. Only 3 rare items for the entire solar system seems pretty common to me. Perhaps an entirely feral planet with deserts and rainforests would be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brimir Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 I'm pretty sure he also mentioned the core reason for it was that Mutagens needed somewhere to sit that wasn't going to be touched while they work out where everything is going to sit on the map. Remember, Jupiter is being switched from Infested territory to a Corpus Territory. Might not be the only place getting changed too. Yes and lets just ignore the fact that the new Infested weapons requires metric tonnes of Mutagen Samples. Puh-lease. It is just a phony way to artifically pad on more "content" on the game by making it grindier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BETAOPTICS Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 Well, it's not a grind wall. It's a wait wall. Though, you get a lot of samples in the derelicts. It's actually fine imo. A lot? Since when has 5 per mission been a lot compared that I checked every corner trying to farm for them and not only did that alone took a lot longer than what normal missions do but then there is also the grind farm for the parts and build time so it is 5 Mutagen Samples per hour when it used to be 7 in a bit less than 15 minutes. No, I will not settle this. I find it hugely disgusting that if the current system will remain. I don't know where this leads to as of yet but this is a huge minus on my book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatantfool Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 Yes and lets just ignore the fact that the new Infested weapons requires metric tonnes of Mutagen Samples. Puh-lease. It is just a phony way to artifically pad on more "content" on the game by making it grindier. This is at least part of the situation, yeah. I'd really like them to put Mutagen back on Eris though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFired3mon Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 (edited) I messaged Rebecca when U10 was released about it and I believe she said it would be fixed. Is that not the case now? :/ Edited September 18, 2013 by TheFired3mon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BETAOPTICS Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 I'm pretty sure he also mentioned the core reason for it was that Mutagens needed somewhere to sit that wasn't going to be touched while they work out where everything is going to sit on the map. Remember, Jupiter is being switched from Infested territory to a Corpus Territory. Might not be the only place getting changed too. This was highly illogical. Why to remove them now and not then, what difference would it have made. Honestly I think this was just to make desperate people spend more money on the game or just a bad call in the last hours of the U10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BETAOPTICS Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 I messaged Rebecca when U10 was released about it and I believe she said it would be fixed :/ I indeed made a topic about it and one player put up a picture of the same exact response. This update was like the good, the bad and the ugly and Mutagen Sample business is in the last one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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