taiiat Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 numbers are nothing, it sucks, Accurate isn't 5 as the number tells, just like the new stinger, iT never hit an enemies over 10M in full auto, so even it do 9999999DPS STILL a RUBBISH but Boar is also relatively inaccurate. it's always been a close range shotgun. a very close range shotgun. the pellet spread means that medium range makes it unviable. but that's okay, since it's burst DPS was always higher than the othershoguns. great for taking down one big enemy, or a smaller group of trash mobs. Boar Prime overall does more damage than Boar does. while it is a bit peciular that Boar recieved a buff, but Boar Prime does not share said characteristics, i adore the fact that Boar Prime is trading off some per shot firepower for a minor ROF buff, and massive Crit improvements. it totally changes how the weapon functions, while also being a minor overall upgrade. Boar Prime as forementioned, is one of the best balanced weapons in the game. it's improving on another version, but it's totally within bounds on all accounts, despite being an upgrade. this is simply the best form Prime equipment can be. balancing equipment in such a way is how we should be doing things, then we wouldn't need equipment Tiers. everything could be contained inside one 'Tier', and everyone could choose their favorite equipment and use it, just like how universal Warframes are(well, almost all of them), and players can mold them into what they want them to be, and use said frame in any situation effectively. Warframe simply can't get better than that, where players can honest to god choose anything they want, and have it be viable at any point in the game. players will appreciate being able to use their favorite equipment anywhere they'd like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybridon Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 numbers are nothing, it sucks, Accurate isn't 5 as the number tells, just like the new stinger, iT never hit an enemies over 10M in full auto, so even it do 9999999DPS STILL a RUBBISH If you are using it wrong, dont blame the weapon, blame your game style. I brought it to Tier 3 keys and it only takes 1-3 shots to tkae down heavies. Learn how to use the gun, thats what the mastery is there for, so people use different weapons and actually become master at using different styles. You my friend have failed, especially with this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cary2010haha Posted September 29, 2013 Author Share Posted September 29, 2013 If you are using it wrong, dont blame the weapon, blame your game style. I brought it to Tier 3 keys and it only takes 1-3 shots to tkae down heavies. Learn how to use the gun, thats what the mastery is there for, so people use different weapons and actually become master at using different styles. You my friend have failed, especially with this thread. thats because you just into a range that even melee can do better, try it on the Conclaves and you will know which weapon is better, even hek can own BOAR prime. Extreme situations(Ex:Conclaves) always show you the weapon's true value Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dasmir Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 thats because you just into a range that even melee can do better, try it on the Conclaves and you will know which weapon is better, even hek can own BOAR prime. Extreme situations(Ex:Conclaves) always show you the weapon's true value "PvP show how good is a weapon" See thats why we need to remove conclave/pvp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cary2010haha Posted September 29, 2013 Author Share Posted September 29, 2013 "PvP show how good is a weapon" See thats why we need to remove conclave/pvp. my sntence is"Extreme situations always show you the weapon's true value" Conclaves just one of those "Extreme situations", wave 50 T3 defecne , Boar Prime can use? i can use braton against wave 50 corpus defecne easily(lvl 288), but Boar Prime? rank 2 but weaker than rank 1 braton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101blubb Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 my sntence is"Extreme situations always show you the weapon's true value" Conclaves just one of those "Extreme situations", wave 50 T3 defecne , Boar Prime can use? i can use braton against wave 50 corpus defecne easily(lvl 288), but Boar Prime? rank 2 but weaker than rank 1 braton You're probably better off using a shotgun against lvl 288 enemies due to the better AP mods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoompigXD Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 (edited) Boar is S#&$. Period. Full auto with small clip and lowest dmg of alll the shottys? S#&$, complete S#&$. 2 shots is 192 Damage, you have a cilp with 10 Shots. Do the math and then come back to me. Edited September 29, 2013 by BoompigXD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cary2010haha Posted September 29, 2013 Author Share Posted September 29, 2013 (edited) You're probably better off using a shotgun against lvl 288 enemies due to the better AP mods. but BOAR Prime is too weak, even with adv. AP mods, it still can't hit the enemies at 15 M (more close= sending yourself out to die) Edited September 29, 2013 by Cary2010haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaskadar Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Dude, are you high? It's the only shotgun with comparable DPS to the Strun Wraith with the correct mods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cary2010haha Posted September 29, 2013 Author Share Posted September 29, 2013 Dude, are you high? It's the only shotgun with comparable DPS to the Strun Wraith with the correct mods. so why no one use it in Conclaves or Wave 50-80 T3 defence? If it really as gd as you said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dasmir Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 (edited) so why no one use it in Conclaves or Wave 50-80 T3 defence? If it really as gd as you said Tryhards metality thats why also stop the crap of conclave. Edited September 29, 2013 by Dasmir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cary2010haha Posted September 29, 2013 Author Share Posted September 29, 2013 (edited) Tryhards metality thats why also stop the crap of conclave.conclave isn't crap, and i just use it as an example of "extreme situations", if conclave really crap it won;t be here.and it's here thats mean it have its value, also a wave 50 T3 defence prove Boar weak enough. Edited September 29, 2013 by Cary2010haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaoticVice777 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 so why no one use it in Conclaves or Wave 50-80 T3 defence? If it really as gd as you said Because the Boar Prime burns a lot of shotgun ammo and because it's not the most common weapon out there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybridon Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 conclave isn't crap, and i just use it as an example of "extreme situations", if conclave really crap it won;t be here. and it's here thats mean it have its value, also a wave 50 T3 defence prove Boar weak enough. I dont know why you open a thread if even after showing you Boar Prime has better burst DPS than Wraith and has a very close DPS to it, you still continue with this bs. Conclave is no way to compare any gun, as some have posted around, some guns have different stats inside conclave, and there is a different team working on conclaves to try and balance it more without f*cking up PVE. Lets do this, come with me on a 1 vs 1 and watch me kick your little puny fragile a$$ with my Boar Prime. As I said before, I bring it to T3 and Heavies dont take more than 3 shots to bring down. If you dont know how to use the wapon, then dont complain. Its a close quarter weapon, probably you are a Nova that spams 4 and then you are using it from way far away from the targets, and then cry over dying at close quarters :) Learn how to play, then you can post a topic. /thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoompigXD Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 numbers are nothing, it sucks, Accurate isn't 5 as the number tells, just like the new stinger, iT never hit an enemies over 10M in full auto, so even it do 9999999DPS STILL a RUBBISH How is it still rubbish? Without factoring mods in if 2 Pellets fell off, it would do 54 damage, 54 X 2 is 108 damage, thats not's bad at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cary2010haha Posted September 30, 2013 Author Share Posted September 30, 2013 I dont know why you open a thread if even after showing you Boar Prime has better burst DPS than Wraith and has a very close DPS to it, you still continue with this bs. Conclave is no way to compare any gun, as some have posted around, some guns have different stats inside conclave, and there is a different team working on conclaves to try and balance it more without f*cking up PVE. Lets do this, come with me on a 1 vs 1 and watch me kick your little puny fragile a$$ with my Boar Prime. As I said before, I bring it to T3 and Heavies dont take more than 3 shots to bring down. If you dont know how to use the wapon, then dont complain. Its a close quarter weapon, probably you are a Nova that spams 4 and then you are using it from way far away from the targets, and then cry over dying at close quarters :) Learn how to play, then you can post a topic. /thread So do you use it on a T3 wave 50 defence? running out to that close range? sending yourself to die? joke cqb weapon even RANK0 Bronco Prime do better at all range than this Rank 2 rubbish BOAR P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeenProSinceDay1 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Lmao its like the people in this thread have not used any other shotgun but the boar prime, its like they don't own one and are just going off of numbers. The gun is crap end of story. I put on my 1 forma hek and wonder why I go back to my 3forma boar prime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeenProSinceDay1 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 I felt strong with a properly nodded Hek, I felt strong with a properly nodded Strun W, I feel like I'm just getting by with this gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo3602 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 I felt strong with a properly nodded Hek, I felt strong with a properly nodded Strun W, I feel like I'm just getting by with this gun. What mods do you have on your Boar Prime? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awolin Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Yeah the boar prime is pretty bad... It has terrible accuracy, kicks like a mule. Damage is terrible. reload isn't that great, smallish clip size for it's fire rate, eats through ammo super quickly. To make it viable you need at least both of the crit mods, ammo mutator, and ammo stock. Thats 4 mods just to make it bearable to use. definitely should beef up the damage and make the reload faster/bigger clip size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 Boar Prime is not "weak". If you want to stress test something for "extreme situations", kill a boss and measure the time. Playing Conclave is not a good way to experiment when you are playing with different players with different loadouts every time, Conclave also factors in skill levels. Boar Prime is not a suitable weapon beyond close range because it is designed as a shotgun, but it delivers high damage just fine at its designated range, this is a shotgun drawback - not a Boar Prime flaw. Rambling about its popularity, thinking it directly correlates with its effectiveness when it isn't as readily available as other weapons just makes you sound stupid. Are you trying to sound stupid with logical fallacies? Can you confidently re-read what you wrote and honestly tell yourself a professional game developer will give you any thought? Boar Prime's damage per clip is excellent, and its rate of fire is superior. You can prove it with videos, damage charts, high-armor notwithstanding. The Boar Prime's true weakness is a lack of increased ammo capacity proportionate to its fire rate, its extremely long reload period makes it cumbersome for use in close-range sustained gunfights where you risk being staggered. As a result, the Boar Prime's best use is for meeting closely with heavy units and killing them quickly. A suitable sidearm or ammo conversion mod is necessary to quickly dispatch low level enemies without wasting shots and worrying about starving ammo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taiiat Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 (edited) my sntence is"Extreme situations always show you the weapon's true value" Conclaves just one of those "Extreme situations", wave 50 T3 defecne , Boar Prime can use? i can use braton against wave 50 corpus defecne easily(lvl 288), but Boar Prime? rank 2 but weaker than rank 1 braton PvP is not an extreme situation. PvP in every shooter is 100% based on who happens to load player movements first, or other miniscule things. also exploiting netcode, but that's not as big a thing in Warframe, though still a thing. and it's here thats mean it have its value, also a wave 50 T3 defence prove Boar weak enough. you don't see Acrid on every planet, in every mission. even though it's arguably the best weapon in the game. reason being? not everyone can get it. some people don't even use Clans. people can't use what they don't have. you have no real information about Boar Prime, because you're comparing it in a part of the game that is officially stated to not be any significant part of. use some Crit mods, and burst fire to avoid spending too many shells, to save ammunition. Edited October 5, 2013 by taiiat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajkrumen Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 Eehhhmm the Latron Prime does NOT suck. I bring it with me all of the time in high level missions. If you KNOW HOW TO AIM you will WRECK the opposition. I can one/two shot level 91s consistently. Most of the time I come out on top in terms of damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eidolon_Slayer Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 Boar Prime is a crit weapon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K0bra Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 (edited) I read some threads(most negative) about that weapon and thought "hmmm test it before you think bad about that wep,maybe some ppl do anything wrong". Even as a crit weapon it is bad.I tested it with all good damage mods(point strike,hells chamber,vicious spread,Blaze,Crit chance and damage mods,elemental mods(AP,fire,electric,ice )depends which enemies im fighting,all maxed) Even when i was very close to the enemy 1-2 meters and no shell missed the damage was ...................................not impressive. This gun isnt good for endgame.It eats shells like a monster and for that you get super small damage even full modded. Damage is very bad even crit builded. The magazine and fire rate is good. Reload time is bad. Accuracy is bad (even worse with mods like vicious spread) Ammo efficency very bad. All together to bad atm. Its sad how bad it is,because i like the way how the boar prime is shooting,the sound and the gun looks amazing.I fell in love with her because of these mechanics. :/ This gun dont need more Critchance,it needs absolutely more damage. I think about 100-110. Edited October 21, 2013 by K0bra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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