Kickboxing_Banana Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 (edited) 1.5-second charge time and 150 charge damage on Scoliac, 1.2-second charge time and 400 charge damage on Galatine (don't forget the crit change + damage). Something seems wrong in my opinion. Dear DE, if you keep releasing non-heavy weapons in future, could you make them have at least average DPS so people would actually use them after ''leveling'' them to level 30 (read: playing mobile defense with a team so you don't even have to use it) Edited December 20, 2013 by GalliumGD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alchemistjkt Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 i will withhold my opinion till after the new melee system comes into play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kickboxing_Banana Posted December 20, 2013 Author Share Posted December 20, 2013 i will withhold my opinion till after the new melee system comes into play. The one that was ''announced'' 4 months ago? Good luck waiting :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archistopheles Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 55 base damage with a 1.6 swing speed? Yeah, it's not a charge weapon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarknightK Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 It needs a buff in charge time to like 0.8 or 0.5. Whips are fast, not slow (same could go for the Lecta's charge, although its not too bad like the Scoliac). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noweakness Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 (edited) The "big" thing about Scoliac is the elemental on it's charge damage, but it's not even worth it when the speed is so low and the damage isn't there to compensate. They should reduce the charge speed or just increase the base damage and use it as a non-charge weapon. This problem won't even come to light for a while since most people don't/won't have it soon. Edited December 20, 2013 by Ennokk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brynslustafir Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 (edited) Pfft. i don't even have it yet. It'll be almost 2 days before my clans Scoliac research is completed. Edited December 20, 2013 by Plasmaface Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ionus Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 The one that was ''announced'' 4 months ago? Good luck waiting :) You mean the one they actually showed footage of in the last livestream? The man is not foolish to wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZzVinniezZ Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 You mean the one they actually showed footage of in the last livestream? The man is not foolish to wait. good thing come to those who wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kickboxing_Banana Posted December 21, 2013 Author Share Posted December 21, 2013 The "big" thing about Scoliac is the elemental on it's charge damage, but it's not even worth it when the speed is so low and the damage isn't there to compensate. They should reduce the charge speed or just increase the base damage and use it as a non-charge weapon. This problem won't even come to light for a while since most people don't/won't have it soon. People will most likely add poison and electricity mods on their Scoliacs anyway, so the Corrosive charge damage isn't that big of an advantage after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shut Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 People will most likely add poison and electricity mods on their Scoliacs anyway, so the Corrosive charge damage isn't that big of an advantage after all. It decimates Grineer while having no downside against any other faction. How is that not an advantage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
immolator1001 Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Does it really need 4 forma like the wiki says? Because if so then ya it needs some serious buffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braken Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 I wish they just applied the Corrosive damage to all of its attacks, instead of only its charged attacks, when its charged attack is practically useless... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archistopheles Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Does it really need 4 forma like the wiki says? Because if so then ya it needs some serious buffs. By your logic the Soma and Synapse need a "serious buff." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krysis_V Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Just when you thought Galatine's charge time is bad. Oo-la-la. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazools Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 So we have another example of another expensive weapon to build, mastery rank capped that is worth S#&$ (Acrid, Synapse and now the Scoliac)! No surprise here... so mastery rank is basicly worth squat! Good one DE. Nicely done,,,again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mea_K Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 So we have another example of another expensive weapon to build, mastery rank capped that is worth S#&$ (Acrid, Synapse and now the Scoliac)! No surprise here... so mastery rank is basicly worth squat! What the hell? Synapse is one of the most powerful weapons in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shut Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 (edited) mastery rank capped that is worth S#&$ (Acrid, Synapse and now the Scoliac)! You've got to be kidding me. Edited December 22, 2013 by SortaRandom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kickboxing_Banana Posted December 22, 2013 Author Share Posted December 22, 2013 It decimates Grineer while having no downside against any other faction. How is that not an advantage? You can make any other weapon deal corrosive damage as well. So we have another example of another expensive weapon to build, mastery rank capped that is worth S#&$ (Acrid, Synapse and now the Scoliac)! No surprise here... so mastery rank is basicly worth squat! Good one DE. Nicely done,,,again! Synapse is one of the most powerful guns in the whole damn game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shut Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 (edited) You can make any other weapon deal corrosive damage as well.And you can make the Scoliac deal twice as much corrosive damage as an ordinary weapon, with no downside against any faction. Point? Edited December 22, 2013 by SortaRandom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzang Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 (edited) And you can make the Stug deal twice as much corrosive damage as an ordinary weapon, with no downside against any faction. Point? the point is about Scoliac having low damage and beeing weak and most clan tech high rank weapons being bad and weak except synapse of course. not so much about Stug having more paper corrosive dps Edited December 22, 2013 by zzang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shut Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 the point is about Scoliac having low damage and beeing weak and most clan tech high rank weapons being bad and weak except synapse of course. not so much about Stug having more paper corrosive dps Ah, completely mixed up. Edited my post. XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retrikaethan Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 in spite of how early on this is, id have to agree the charge time is far too long for what you get. the weapon is clantech, it oughta break the limits of the average weapon much like the other weapons have done. other than that the only complaints i have against it would be the hitbox issue and that both the slide and jump attacks do not utilize the whips' potential length. (slide attacks you could spin twice, once to set up the whip for the motion and the second to lash out in execution at great range. and jump attacks could do the same on the vertical, forward roll to setup, bringing down the extended whip in front of you.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helljack84 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Nah, i'll just slap corrosive on my galantine...it's not even about damage or costs, I just like weapons that can hit enemies in front of me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shut Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 (edited) I just noticed-- 4 Forma to craft?!?!??! Are you bloody kidding me? Do you guys not remember how chaotic September was, when we saw that Synapse required three? Not everybody has a gigantic stack of already-crafted Forma in their inventories, no matter how many Blueprints they may have. That's an absolute bare minimum of 5 days of crafting for this item without plat. Five days. A day and a half longer than a bloody Warframe. Who on earth thought that this was a good idea?! Edited December 22, 2013 by SortaRandom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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