matto Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 (edited) It's just insane. I'll keep making threads about rewards until something change. This one is about the Derelict Survival. It is nice to see that you finally decided to get rid of those unranked fusion cores (we got common 3 instead...). And to see that you added void keys for the 15min mark. But seriously, those survivals are not like the others. The Orokin Derelict is HUGE. I mean, those tilesets are so vast that, in solo, if you don't get the right tileset (see screenshots below), you're screwed and can't last longer than 15min. Just because those oxygen tanks sometimes spawn in rooms that are 3 rooms away. And we're not talking about small rooms, it's more like a labyrinth where you have to wall run and everything to get to the next room. WORSE, once you get to the room where your oxygen tank is, it's either ennemies who don't spawn anymore (this room with two elevators, and the loot tanks you find after the small tunnels in the water) or the next oxygen tank is where you came from : 3 rooms away. I'm sorry, but everytime I hear "Hey look what our research team just found!" and that a fusion core rank 3 appears, I just want to smash this lotus' face so hard... Damn, it took them 5min to find a common 3 fusion core, while I just got 6-7-8 of them by massively killing those infested. WHAT THE HELL ARE THEY DOING IN THE RESEARCH TEAM? Seriously, I think they should stop getting so high with nanospores in the Derelict and actually start doing researches. It's the same for the 1000 credits. Nice... Do you even know how much an Orokin Derelict key cost? 6500 credits + ressources + coordinates. YES, 6500 credits !!! And how much did you just give me? 1000 Credits? And the research team spent 5min doing that in rooms full of loot containers and ennemies? And I should add that it seems there is no tier or whatsoever. 5min... 1000 credits/common 3 fusion core. 25min? Here, take 1000 credits/common 3 fusion core. While I have to fight level 40-50 ancients, smashing my iron skin again and again, slowing me down with their hordes of stupid mobs when I try to reach the new oxygen tank 3 rooms away. And sometimes I try to push myself 5 more minutes, and just forget how DAMN HUGE those Derelict tilesets can be, and eventually get out of oxygen and die at the doors of the extraction room, loosing all those common 3 cores and the 15min void key, and 1000 credits... all those rewards that I don't even care about. So yeah, just like this new event, I sometimes just quit the mission if I don't get the right tileset. Sometimes, after 15min, if it's all about getting cores and credits, I just quit and start again so I don't waste a key. So much fun... So much fun in the Derelict. My points : Create tier for rewards in the Derelict, just like other survivals. It takes more efforts and risks than other survivals, we should get better rewards. Stop giving nanospores to the Research team, get them go detox. Like this post if you support. Just so you know guys, when trying to do it solo, just pray you get this tileset with those two rooms, it gets easier (the crappy rewards stay the same though) : I can't wait to get more Prime items in the Derelict, such a nice place to farm prime items... Edited December 21, 2013 by matto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulie Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 They just need to stop diluting the loot tables with stupid credit rewards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KazVN Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 reach 25 mins. Got 1000 credit cache( YES 1000!)/ i think infrested survival diff 5( like OD) has no problem with mobs number- oxy. But it is with team 3-4 not solo. survival is not built for solo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matto Posted December 21, 2013 Author Share Posted December 21, 2013 They just need to stop diluting the loot tables with stupid credit rewards. There's no such thing as reward table for the derelict. It's just 1000 credits, a fusion core, or a prime item. It's not even diluted by those crappy rewards. The WHOLE TABLE is crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xveganrox Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 The loot tables seem bugged (wouldn't be the first time in this game). On the other hand you get tons of affinity, so there's at least that. If you're not leveling frames and gear while farming, you're doing it wrong =P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogueweapon Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 survival , you live or die , survival is not garunteed part of that is knowing when to leave and when to stay , you know your going in solo , no point in complaining when you get a bad tile , just leave earlier and roll again . play to the conditions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matto Posted December 21, 2013 Author Share Posted December 21, 2013 The loot tables seem bugged (wouldn't be the first time in this game). On the other hand you get tons of affinity, so there's at least that. If you're not leveling frames and gear while farming, you're doing it wrong =P Thanks tenno, but I already know what to do in game. I'm just not there to level up my gear, that's not what I need atm. And yeah, you could do that anyway, just don't forget to try to kill those ancients with your new gear or you'll get 100XP at the end of the mission with the new system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Multiple Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 They should either remove or step up the credit reward significantly. If they removed them entirely it would be a "go twice, get all your items and done" sort of thing, so I'm not sure I support taht right away, but maybe after they've added some more prime items to the table. And I feel your pain about the huge layout. I did one last night where I had to go cross country at 45 minutes to grab a life support (which I got as the supply hit 2%) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacedkadet Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 30 mins, well done here have 1000 credits.... seriously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bejuizb Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 I just did a run with a few friends. 45 minutes in, here were our rewards: 8 1000 credit caches and 1 common fusion core. Safe to say we extracted immediately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiithe Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Something needs to be done about the reward, i don't mind farming for prime items and getting appropriately tiered rewards in OD but cash or fusion core (except for high rank) should not be part of them. Posted my reply from another thread https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/151514-first-you-remove-infested-then-you-screw-up-od-drop-tables/ Just did 30min of OD solo In order I recieved- Cash reward Cash reward T3 cap key Burston prime reciever Cash reward Last night i had similar but no key for one run and the other i got 5 fusion cores and nothing else. Who killed the drop table for OD-S If i can afford to make the derelict keys, not that they cost much, then getting 1000 or 1500 cash is not much of a reward at any point in derelict or orokin survivals. As for fusion cores, tend to get enough of them as standard drops from the kills don't need them at 5min intervals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matto Posted December 21, 2013 Author Share Posted December 21, 2013 (edited) Just tried again. 30 min solo. 1. 1000 2. 1000 3. T2 Ext 4. 1500 5. 1000 6. Fusion Core common 3 Enough RNG for today, time to go to sleep. Edited December 21, 2013 by matto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegetableBasket Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 http://puu.sh/5T9gW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiithe Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Just did another 1. fusion core 2. fusion core 3. t3 cap key 4. fusion core 5. 1000 cred Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xveganrox Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Thanks tenno, but I already know what to do in game. I'm just not there to level up my gear, that's not what I need atm. And yeah, you could do that anyway, just don't forget to try to kill those ancients with your new gear or you'll get 100XP at the end of the mission with the new system. That new system didn't actually happen, just FYI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordAsmolicious Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Did a 29 min survival. (we couldnt make 30. Since as you said huge layout. We were 20ish seconds short of 30 minutes. ) We got... 1. Cash. 2. Cash. 3. T3 MD. 4.Cash 5.Common 3 fusion core. and all the cash was 1k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
konfetarius Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 I think I did close to 20 runs now. Still no bloody Burston blueprint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matto Posted December 21, 2013 Author Share Posted December 21, 2013 That new system didn't actually happen, just FYI. So why do I get only 100 XP on my melee or secondary if I almost don't use them, after a 20min run? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RejectionOfFate Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Just tried again. 30 min solo. 1. 1000 2. 1000 3. T2 Ext 4. 1500 5. 1000 6. Fusion Core common 3 Enough RNG for today, time to go to sleep. Sums up my last five 35 Minute Runs. Credits to Yuikami. I hate that F---ing Operative, searching through the Derelicts couches for spare change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matto Posted December 21, 2013 Author Share Posted December 21, 2013 lol excellent ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matto Posted December 22, 2013 Author Share Posted December 22, 2013 Just to say that I finally managed to complete my burston (now time to farm Orokin cells...). It took me more than 10 runs of 30min solo I think. Got it at 30min (or 35min, not sure) mark on my last run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoking-Ashes Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 i did 6+ runs with my newly acquired online friends.... 3 were around 30-45min and 1 was for an hour....u know wht we were rewards for our toubles? 1 burston prime and receiver bp (which all of us alrdy had),1 rare5 core (which i have more than 60 of) and all other stuff was 1000-1500 creds and uncommon cores..... a big f u to us for playing dedicatedly is tht it of great creators? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishki88 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 I joined a game with some players...when I say the credits reward at 15 i just alt f4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felldian Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 So why do I get only 100 XP on my melee or secondary if I almost don't use them, after a 20min run? He's right, they only implemented the sentinel affinity changes. Lv 30 weapons still hoard exp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brahmastra Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Got this 30min ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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