Gorgon Wraith... Thoughts?

[KittyDarkling]

    So.. the reduced reload speed looks really nice. and the accuracy might be noticeable. but is anyone else disappointed with how small the damage/fire rate increase is? The Forums have be asking for a buff to the normal Gorgon to bring it in line with the Supra and the Soma for months now. Wraith weapons normally are a hot spot of initally being released with to much power that's then reduced over a time until their balanced. Now DE releases the Gorgon Wraith with a negligibly higher dps and it feels like this is them saying "No, we're not buffing it." which is kinda depressing because I really like the Gorgon and it's DPS is so much lesser then other similar weapons that it makes it harder to work with at higher levels. . .

 

    what does everyone else think?  Am I overreacting or is anyone else disappointed?

[JohnProdman]

Rank and toss.

 

(J/k, more like rank and sit in the inventory forever, all shiny and such)

Edited March 6, 2014 by Dominus_Tenno

[-Hemorrhage-]

You haven't used it as of yet. No one has used it as of yet.

 

Leave it alone.

[Raiithe]

the gorgon was pretty good when i first used it, and since it became more accurate as it spun up then it became pretty good at long range.Its main problem was reload time, and then the soma and supra came out. I'm just glad to see that an ol' fave is getting a touch up.

[Oishii]

I noticed the stats on the wiki, but how were these stats gathered? Are they even the correct stats?

[tsubasakuroi]

I noticed the stats on the wiki, but how were these stats gathered? Are they even the correct stats?

 

codex already has the stats

[Monolake]

some one post the numbers plz?

need to do the math before you can judge 

 

Boltor Prime is freaking OP btw, powercreep in this game...

Edited March 6, 2014 by Monolake

[Amistyrja]

Meh. I wanted Twin Gorgons

[Brimir]

Meh. I wanted Twin Gorgons

 

 

Personally, I'd rather they make the original Gorgon viable rather than "fix it" by adding an improved Wraith version.

[KittyDarkling]

Personally, I'd rather they make the original Gorgon viable rather than "fix it" by adding an improved Wraith version.

 

    I would strongly agree. Wraiths are nice and all but I worry DE's just going to leave them like this now. we had a hard enough time asking them to buff the original now we need to ask for a buff for them both?

[LukeAura]

Reduced reload by 1.2 seconds.
10% more status. 
15.5% more dps.  
Increased accuracy.

Coupled with the fact we're getting another large procc boosting mod, I think the buffs given to it are well worth it. 

[gaurdianaq]

I think my biggest issue with it is that boltor prime is like double the damage of boltor, gorgon wraith in my mind should be at least stronger than boltor prime.

[Grulos]

If the damage really is 25 total, it is underwhelmingly weak. It is just another Gorgon with faster firerate and the same damage.

 

35 or 40 damage with a slightly lower firerate would be cooler.

[gaurdianaq]

If the damage really is 25 total, it is underwhelmingly weak. It is just another Gorgon with faster firerate and the same damage.

 

35 or 40 damage with a slightly lower firerate would be cooler.

Or 40 damage with the same firerate.

[Makemap]

If the damage really is 25 total, it is underwhelmingly weak. It is just another Gorgon with faster firerate and the same damage.

 

35 or 40 damage with a slightly lower firerate would be cooler.

Gorgon wraith damage should be buffed. It deals almost the same exact damage as Boltor which is kind of dumb.

 

http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Boltor

http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Gorgon_Wraith

http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Gorgon

 

I mean look at Strun wraith vs Strun comparison. Gorgon Wraith is a disappointing weapon. It should also have a magazine buff to 120.

http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Strun

http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Strun_Wraith

 

Even Braton Prime out matches this gun.

http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Braton_Prime

 

25 damage is so weak.

[Pythadragon]

Gorgon wraith damage should be buffed. It deals almost the same exact damage as Boltor which is kind of dumb.

 

http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Boltor

http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Gorgon_Wraith

http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Gorgon

 

I mean look at Strun wraith vs Strun comparison. Gorgon Wraith is a disappointing weapon. It should also have a magazine buff to 120.

http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Strun

http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Strun_Wraith

 

Even Braton Prime out matches this gun.

http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Braton_Prime

 

25 damage is so weak.

 

I'll disagree here. The point of the gorgon wraith will not be for damage, but for status procs.

15% status at 13.3 RPS

 

With both dual status/damage mods:

0.15 + (0.15 * 1.2)  = 0.33

 

Adding split chamber:

1-0.33 = 0.67

0.67^1.9 = 0.47

1-0.47 = 0.53

 

Result:

53% status per shot * 13.3 RPS (+ shred/speed trigger)

Edited March 6, 2014 by Pythadragon

[stratmania]

Upon looking at the stats, I was inclined to say that the damage was too low, but with the proc chance it should be very nice...

Still, at least 30 damage would have been great. The accuracy.... I want to see it in action.

[IIJetfireII]

Wow, a thread that's made on weapon that no one has received yet. Amazing.

Edited March 6, 2014 by IIRodimusprimeII

[gaurdianaq]

Wow, a thread that's made on weapon that no one has received yet. Amazing.

regardless of whether people have used it, people can do the math and see the effectiveness to an extent, they can crunch some of the numbers.

[LukeAura]

Unfortunately the number that will be of most importance to a lot of people(Well at least me any ways. Vanilla Gorgon can't hit the broadside of a barn) is the increase in accuracy, which is the least crunchable number. 
 

[Rafarix]

Ehh I dunno about the Gorgon Wraith right now. I'll stick to my Grakata for proc rates personally. Of course it wouldn't hurt to try the weapon onces it's given out. Who knows maybe it'll use the old Gorgon firing sound.

[LazyKnight]

      what does everyone else think?  Am I overreacting or is anyone else disappointed?

It is unknown if the wind-up time is the same. I want to see how it behaves before I judge it.

[Monolake]

Maybe Gorgon Wraith is only a ~15% upgrade because its being handled out to every one who completes this super-easy event? 

If it has decent accuracy 9000 dps is enough to beat all t3 you'll ever need.

[ExplosiveFuel]

I'm surprisingly disappointed. Looking at the other wraiths I was expecting a crit chance increase, crit damage increase, or at least a polarity or two already in the weapon. Sure forma can fix that, but still.

[MirageKnight]

All in all, the Gorgon Wraith's got some decent buffs - Status and Reload in particular. I wonder if they'll give it a "-" or "v"polarity as well? Remember, the Codex doesn't list the base polarities (if any) that a given weapon might have and Wraith Twin Vipers came with one.

 

I wish they hadn't nerfed Puncture and Slash damage...but eh...that doesn't matter too much when you're going to be relying on elemental damage anyway. Magnetic and Toxin procs vs Corpus and Heat and Corrosion vs Grineer are going to be far more common now with that 15% status chance.