.Talia. Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 We shall see what the Lore will tell us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolidSp33d Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 A reference skin doesn't make Dark Sector canon. Read the description for the skin ma dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesseract_The_Pariah Posted March 26, 2014 Author Share Posted March 26, 2014 The update this week has a proto frame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalenath Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 How can they not believe you... on the Dev livestream several times, "Dark Sector was way way way in the past, thousands upon thousands of years in the past in this universe..." and so many other references. Lol Because people can always deny ANYTHING. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatantfool Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Read the description for the skin ma dude. I did. I see nothing specifically stating Dark Sector happened, or rather nothing stating that it is significant to Warframe's world. Just the same vague sort of stuff they put on anything. It is a reference. A skin that means something to us as players but means little to the world unless they keep going that route with future content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brimir Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 I did. I see nothing specifically stating Dark Sector happened, or rather nothing stating that it is significant to Warframe's world. Just the same vague sort of stuff they put on anything. It is a reference. A skin that means something to us as players but means little to the world unless they keep going that route with future content. Thank you. That's exactly it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OniDax Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 That should be a model of warframe, at least. They'd certainly have to change that left arm though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OniDax Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Candy Cane aside: This confirms Dark Sector's Hayden Tenno, but WHICH Dark Sector and WHICH Hayden Tenno is up to debate: Are we looking at the modern-military Dark Sector game that was published being connected, or are we looking at a revival of the original Sci Fi version of the game (in some form)? Personally, I think it's the latter - given that the talk of the Technocyte being invented by the Orokin (although maybe it means that in the same vein we would call Pre-Successful Revolution George Washington an American when we was really just a rebellious British Citizen?) and the original Dark Sector had it invented by a modern-day human scientist. Uh, clearly the released, modern, Dark Sector one, seeing as the outfit is that armor and not the original 2001 suit (although I think they should release that one as well, maybe next year). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OniDax Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 I did. I see nothing specifically stating Dark Sector happened, or rather nothing stating that it is significant to Warframe's world. Just the same vague sort of stuff they put on anything. It is a reference. A skin that means something to us as players but means little to the world unless they keep going that route with future content. Seriously? It's not just a "reference". If it were just a reference, the description would have said "the suit from Dark Sector". It clearly didn't say that. It specifically says that it was rediscovered, and that it's origins, while unknown, may predate the Orokin Empire. That's lore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morec0 Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 (edited) Uh, clearly the released, modern, Dark Sector one, seeing as the outfit is that armor and not the original 2001 suit (although I think they should release that one as well, maybe next year). There's a difference? *rewatches trailer* Hmm, so it is. Well, that said I return to my statement about Orokin being used to refer to humans even in the past as a means of reconciling discrepancies. Seriously? It's not just a "reference". If it were just a reference, the description would have said "the suit from Dark Sector". It clearly didn't say that. It specifically says that it was rediscovered, and that it's origins, while unknown, may predate the Orokin Empire. That's lore. My thoughts exactly. Edited March 26, 2014 by Morec0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolidSp33d Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 (edited) Uh, clearly the released, modern, Dark Sector one, seeing as the outfit is that armor and not the original 2001 suit (although I think they should release that one as well, maybe next year). Well I think he means, or at least I mean, just changing up the explanation of some things and tweaking things in the story of Dark Sector. Just basically snipping some strings and tying them with some of warframe's Edited March 26, 2014 by SolidSp33d Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatantfool Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Seriously? It's not just a "reference". If it were just a reference, the description would have said "the suit from Dark Sector". It clearly didn't say that. It specifically says that it was rediscovered, and that it's origins, while unknown, may predate the Orokin Empire. That's lore. Saying that doesn't mean anything unless they keep rolling with it. It is useless information by itself, just like the flavor text on Syandanas. Right now it doesn't confirmed anything in particular, other then open up the fact that Orokin engineers borrowed the look and design of their suits from somewhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolidSp33d Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Seriously? It's not just a "reference". If it were just a reference, the description would have said "the suit from Dark Sector". It clearly didn't say that. It specifically says that it was rediscovered, and that it's origins, while unknown, may predate the Orokin Empire. That's lore. That and Sheldon said we'd be getting origin lore this week. So yeah. gg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brimir Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 (edited) I'm pretty sure it is anti-lore (like Batman, but with lore!) In order to prevent confusion, they added that bit to avoid people speculating if Dark Sector took place during the Orokin era. They're putting as much chronological space between the two as possible. Hayden was the first Dark Sector Tenno, but he was not the first Warframe Tenno; this piece of "anti-lore" confirms that he wasn't by putting the distance between the two. If Hayden's suit dates back before the Orokin Era as this bit of "anti-lore" tells us, then he (and as a result Dark Sector) would have minimal impact on the events that make up the lore of Warframe. Edited March 26, 2014 by Brimir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalenath Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 (edited) I'm pretty sure it is anti-lore (like Batman, but with lore!) In order to prevent confusion, they added that bit to avoid people speculating if Dark Sector took place during the Orokin era. They're putting as much chronological space between the two as possible. Hayden was the first Dark Sector Tenno, but he was not the first Warframe Tenno; this piece of "anti-lore" confirms that he wasn't by putting the distance between the two. 'May predate the Orokin Empire' They have neither confirmed NOR denied the canon yet. But this IS a tenuous link. Edited March 26, 2014 by Kalenath Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Talia. Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 What's the problem if Dark Sector's Lore is all true in Warframe universe? I have no problem with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesseract_The_Pariah Posted March 26, 2014 Author Share Posted March 26, 2014 'May predate the Orokin Empire' They have neither confirmed NOR denied the canon yet. But this IS a tenuous link. Look at ember lore. It's possible that originally they were a secret society, before coming out to public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-.DawnofNSSD.- Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 What's the problem if Dark Sector's Lore is all true in Warframe universe? I have no problem with that. it completely throws off their Stalker theories and Tenno romance parings! "how is my Vauban going to date Valkyr if Hayden was the first Orokin!? DE ur all my OTPs!!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morec0 Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 it completely throws off their Stalker theories and Tenno romance parings! "how is my Vauban going to date Valkyr if Hayden was the first Orokin!? DE ur all my OTPs!!!" I don't see why that's an issue. Technically we're ALL related anyway, but we're so vastly diverse through bloodlines and varying marriages it doesn't really matter. Even IF Hayden is someone the ancestor of ALL Tenno, he's far enough back that is isn't incest anymore (unless incest was used to keep Tenno bloodlines pure or something). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalenath Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Look at ember lore. It's possible that originally they were a secret society, before coming out to public. THAT is actually what I am steering towards in my latest fanfic :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brimir Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 I bet all the Tenno had to attend a secret high-school where they learned to control their scary new-found powers. They were ruled over by an old telepathic Tenno headmaster in a wheelchair, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morec0 Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 (edited) I bet all the Tenno had to attend a secret high-school where they learned to control their scary new-found powers. They were ruled over by an old telepathic Tenno headmaster in a wheelchair, too. I get more of an Ender's Game/Spartan feel, personally. Edited March 26, 2014 by Morec0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-.DawnofNSSD.- Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 I don't see why that's an issue. Technically we're ALL related anyway, but we're so vastly diverse through bloodlines and varying marriages it doesn't really matter. Even IF Hayden is someone the ancestor of ALL Tenno, he's far enough back that is isn't incest anymore (unless incest was used to keep Tenno bloodlines pure or something). *fightingoftheurgetotalkaboutsarynxnyxmommydaughterincestandcompletelydisrailthisthreadforever* nah man what i said was complete non-sense! as to represent the complete non-sense that these anti-DS+WF peeps are sayin :'D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalenath Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 I get more of an Ender's Game/Spartan feel, personally. Well, I personally went for a ninja clan vibe myself. Isolated, secretive and very, very scary when they wanted to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brimir Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 I get more of an Ender's Game/Spartan feel, personally. I don't know what either of those are, so... Go-go X-Men reference!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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