Entari0 Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 This is sort of bugging me. See, Argon is a Noble Gas. Over on the far right of the periodic table, number 18, the symbol is Ar. The issue is that Argon is inert, does not decay, and has to be insanely cold to freeze, at 83.81 Kelvin, -189.34 degrees Celsius, or -308.81 degrees Fahrenheit, not a likely temperature to find in a jungle. It can form crystals, but they would not decay, and they would be clear, rather than the greyish purple that they are in game. Yes, the game is set in the distant future, but elements are elements. As a slight perfectionist, I would suggest renaming it to either a new element that DE comes up with, or one that does decay, like uranium for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raptor_458 Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 This has been bugging me as well. As if decaying resources weren't bad enough, DE didn't even bother to choose something that made sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retrikaethan Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Unobtainium is a safe name for made up metals, something like that could be applied to crystals as well :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackflashcannon Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 lol, i never thought to check the periodic table on that. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathKoala Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 My personal explanation would be Orokin/Void sillies to keep it solid at standard temperatures/pressures. As for the coloration, that could easily be due to some sort of impurity. Come to think of it, the impurity could also be what keeps it solid, but also is unstable outside of specific conditions (of which the Tenno are ignorant). This would account for the crystals decaying, since if the only thing keeping them solid decays, they would revert to a gaseous state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaftMeat Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Are the crystals actually made of Argon, or just named Argon? Maybe the guy who discovered them in the void was named Argon, and named them after himself. Maybe the void changes Argon on a molecular level we don't understand, and when they cross over they defy our physics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tali Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 well its game logic :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worira Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Isotopes of argon do decay, though. Although none match the in-game stuff in terms of (half-)life. I do find it funny that DE picked an element that is defined primarily by it's inert nature for the one resource that decays, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrazilianJoe Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Haiku: Ninjas in Space Pirate and Parrot Your argument is invalid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathKoala Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Haiku: Ninjas in Space Pirate and Parrot Your argument is invalid That's not a haiku at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worira Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Ah, the classic haiku structure of 4/5/8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archistopheles Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Isotopes of argon do decay, though. Although none match the in-game stuff in terms of (half-)life. I do find it funny that DE picked an element that is defined primarily by it's inert nature for the one resource that decays, though. Stop it. There is absolutely no reason for a resource we obtain as players to decay over time. End of story. Haiku: Ninjas in Space Four Syllables. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worira Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Stop it. There is absolutely no reason for a resource we obtain as players to decay over time. End of story. Well, yes, because it's a crappy gameplay mechanic. That's an entirely separate matter from whether or not it makes sense for the material to decay in-universe. They could have said "Collect samples of a rare strain of the Technocyte virus, but make sure you research them quickly, since they will decay in 24 hours" and it would have made plenty of sense, but would still have sucked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfstorm18 Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 I agree entirely. It should de renamed to grindium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P1RAT3 Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 (edited) I agree entirely. It should de renamed to grindium. GRINDFRAME UPDATE 13: GRIND SOME MORE! LOOK FOR THE NEW DECAYING KOREAN-MMORPG WORTHY GRIND-RESOURCE; GRINDIUM! Edit: DON'T WANT TO GRIND? DON'T WAIT! PAY 150$ NOW AND RECEIVE ACCESS TO THE NEW RESKINS! Edited April 11, 2014 by P1RAT3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
immolator1001 Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 You know what else doesn't make sense? Oxium! Or like any of the powers in this game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entari0 Posted April 11, 2014 Author Share Posted April 11, 2014 You know what else doesn't make sense? Oxium! Or like any of the powers in this game! true, but this is a problem with the real life parallel of an item, that has a vastly different behavior in real life than in game. I know you can just shout "game logic" and go on your way, but it is still an issue that goes against some (relatively) basic chemistry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfstorm18 Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Maybe their idea is to turn players into mindless farming droids. Hence the name of the new frame being Hydroid. Theres even a parrot skin for the farming sentinel, so that he can repeat "grind grineer galleon". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mak_Gohae Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Void Argon has different properties than normal Argon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nothus Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 It definitely looks like it's in a crystal state due to some sort of impurity. I also don't mind the decay aspect. SO LONG AS THE REQUIRED NUMBER IS MINIMAL. Currently i havent needed more than 2 at any given time which has been trivial to get. It's fine. just a simple way to prevent stockpiling. Remember, stockpiling leads people to think that manufacturing is a joke unless the resource requirements are ridiculously high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyte Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 a) It's Argon Crystal, which already hints at wonkiness because you can't make a crystal out of a noble gas. b) Oxium c) Orokin space magic turned Jupiter, Pluto, Phobos inhabitable. We're talking ridiculous spacemagic here. This is but a quibble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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