CTanGod Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 So, I think everyone here knows that Valkyr is probably the only trully melee dedicated Warframe in the game and pretty much everyone who played her during her "POS" period got really excited with U12 changes on her and what Melee 2.0 would bring yet Melee 2.0 has done nothing but cripple her. Yes, I do know DE had some DDoS attack and other things but they could have fixed Hysteria, since the only problem with it is the fact that it isn't affected by Power Strength and the Melee weapon you have equiped, with a simple hotfix. Of course I do take into the consideration that DE believes she might have been too strong with Melee 2.0 melee combo metter and channeling but let's look at it this way: now Valkyr can only score like 1858(regardless of weapon equiped) crit on Infested Enemies, not that bad, and with combo metter it can go to around 5-7k but then you look at Ash and Loki who already have 4x more melee dmg with their stealth (the 4x was also the multiplier on full power strength Valkyr which implied higher energy cost on an ULTIMATE yet they got 4x melee dmg multiplier for only 50 energy and the freedom to use ranged weapons aswell). So, my suggestion to make things up is this: - Replace Rip Line with a pounce like ability that does dmg on take off (impact maybe) and deals dmg once it lands (direction based on cursor position and deals impact dmg on landing and slash to enemies hit before landing). Like this she maintains mobility and has a more thematic ability. - Warcry could be made spammable so she can have a sort of CC - Paralisys remains the way it is - Hysteria gains new animations (no doubt already in the works) and gets the bugs fixed (assuming they are bugs) and has a 3x crit multiplier and and multiplies weapon dmg by 200% instead of 175%. I'm sure most players don't mind never seeing Valkyr anyway because they are still probably stuck with the whole mentality of use what's most damaging etc. etc. but that doesn't mean it should spoil the fun of other people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnnaJReverT Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 at least critchance and crit-modifier are affected by your melee-weaponwith a crit-built melee weapon, you can hit 15k per punch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archistopheles Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 So, I think everyone here knows that Valkyr is probably the only trully melee dedicated Warframe in the game Loki. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTanGod Posted April 18, 2014 Author Share Posted April 18, 2014 (edited) Loki. He is supposed to troll enemies and can force them to melee but since he is invisible all the time (atleast a good one is) doesn't mean he is meant to melee (back before melee 2.0 nobody really meleed with Loki unless they used Galatine, but since he was invisible enemies would run away so...) besides he can shoot with weapons even while stealthed so it doesn't mean he has to melee (now it's just more appealing). Edited April 18, 2014 by CTanGod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketec Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 the ult is bad. it looks and feels bad and is boring. The removal of steel charge affecting it was a bad move too :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyApathy Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 (edited) Life Strike + Warcry = The hysteria you've always wanted Seriously I've been doing pure melee runs since I discovered this combo with Valkyr and have gone over 30 min on survivals without ever using Hysteria. Edited April 18, 2014 by HappyApathy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bodyshk Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 Life Strike + Warcry = The hysteria you've always wanted Seriously I've been doing pure melee runs since I discovered this combo with Valkyr and have gone over 30 min on survivals without ever using Hysteria. So you don't use channeling then? (i don't either, clicking around is a pain D: ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archistopheles Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 he is invisible all the time (atleast a good one is) doesn't mean he is meant to melee You should read the description for his invisibility ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyApathy Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 So you don't use channeling then? (i don't either, clicking around is a pain D: ) On the contrary Life Strike only works while channeling, I use an unranked one as maxing it out makes it too energy inefficient to be useful, using this with Rage on Valkyr pretty much means your perpetually gaining energy from taking damage while constantly regenerating health by dealing out melee damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azawarau Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 I love hysterias animation Wild punching in her mad rage It suits her As for the rest.... I dont know enough yet to say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
03-AALIYAH- Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 On the contrary Life Strike only works while channeling, I use an unranked one as maxing it out makes it too energy inefficient to be useful, using this with Rage on Valkyr pretty much means your perpetually gaining energy from taking damage while constantly regenerating health by dealing out melee damage. equip a decaying dragon key for better effects on that type of build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nubble6 Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 Has anyone else noticed that Hysteria's attack speed is now completely broken? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morec0 Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 I love hysterias animation Wild punching in her mad rage It suits her As for the rest.... I dont know enough yet to say I dunno, I get more of a "madly clawing and slashing" vibe from the energy claws she creates. I'm sure that she'll have some punches, but I'd like sweeping slashing movements for any updates she gets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azawarau Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 I dunno, I get more of a "madly clawing and slashing" vibe from the energy claws she creates. I'm sure that she'll have some punches, but I'd like sweeping slashing movements for any updates she gets. It always feels like thats how she was when trying to escape the experiments done on her by Alad V Almost like The Ring The scratches at the bottom of the well from the girl trying to escape It always gave me that vibe so i thought it suited her Bad memories coming back and losing control... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaotyke Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 (edited) So you don't use channeling then? (i don't either, clicking around is a pain D: ) 1) Click and press Mouse1 2) Click ESC 3) Let go of Mouse1 4) Click ESC again 5) Enjoy Edited April 19, 2014 by Kao-Snake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkarius Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 I personally want to see combo skills when she goes into Hysteria, giving you the option of being more "feral" in nature instead of randomly spamming E. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azawarau Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 I personally want to see combo skills when she goes into Hysteria, giving you the option of being more "feral" in nature instead of randomly spamming E. Give her wild grabs and throws.... Maybe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksithis002 Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 Has anyone else noticed that Hysteria's attack speed is now completely broken? i've noticed it, seems to have happened when they did the hotfixes, was fine before then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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