Is Laser Rifle Prime The New Best Sentinel Weapon?

[Yazeth]

Been wondering about this, since I saw a few threads about how good it was. Is it better than the Sweeper or Stinger?

[MSD3000]

Seems to be the only sentinel weapons with a semi-decent crit chance. That could make quite a difference. But I'm too lazy to crunch numbers...

[Darzk]

Sweeper will be better for status and CC, but the Prime Laser Rifle will pull better DPS.

[TisForTat]

It has better DPS on paper than the other sentinel guns, however:

 

1) Unlike Sweeper, unless you plan to max out duplicate rifle mods or use a shotgun for primary, it will be harder to mod for.

2) Not hit scan, therefore less accurate than Deth Machine Rifle and Sweeper versus moving targets.

[Nintennoh]

Sweeper is still better, but the Laser Rifle Prime is definitely a major improvement of it's normal counterpart.

[[DE]Momaw]

The problem with the laser rifle prime is sentinel's ability to aim.  Which is TERRIBLE.  By the numbers the laser rifle doesn't seem to bad, but reality is that in actual gameplay only a small fraction of that hypothetical damage will actually be realized due to the wild inaccuracy.

[MSD3000]

I wonder, then, how it would stack up to the Stinger, since that is non-hitscan. Stinger is usually my go-to weapon when I'm using a shotty.

[Frostosti]

if your primary weapon is a rifle, use the sweeper

if your primary weapon is a shotgun, use the laser rifle

[Sir_Alex_Traffo]

I'm sorry, not exactly on topic, but do Sentinel weapons give mastery points??

[LordOfWar666]

The best rifle is the DMR.

Warframe Builder  Links:

http://warframe-builder.com/Sentinel_Weapons/Builder/Prime_laser_rifle/t_30_22223002_132-2-5-133-4-5-137-0-10-138-5-5-140-3-5-149-6-5-150-1-10-159-7-5_137-7-150-8-132-8-140-5-133-6-138-11-149-9-159-5/en/12-0-7/14259/0

http://warframe-builder.com/Sentinel_Weapons/Builder/Deth_machine_rifle/t_30_30022222_132-6-5-133-1-5-134-3-5-137-4-10-138-0-5-149-7-5-150-5-10-163-2-3_138-6-133-11-163-9-134-6-137-7-150-8-132-8-149-5/en/12-0-2/14262/0 

http://warframe-builder.com/Sentinel_Weapons/Builder/Stinger/t_30_30022222_128-3-3-132-6-5-133-1-5-137-4-10-138-0-5-149-7-5-150-5-10-163-2-3_138-6-133-11-163-9-128-4-137-7-150-8-132-8-149-5/en/12-0-4/14267/0

[LordOfWar666]

if your primary weapon is a rifle, use the sweeper

if your primary weapon is a shotgun, use the laser rifle

I prefer use always a rifle. I have two serrations and two heavy caliber...

[S7ORM]

if your primary weapon is a rifle, use the sweeper

if your primary weapon is a shotgun, use the laser rifle

Or just set your sentinel's weapon first with all the mods, then switch your primary to whatever weapon you want (even sharing the mods), change to the foundry then quit. Now you're both using the same mods!

[Noble_Cactus]

The best rifle is the DMR.

Warframe Builder  Links:

http://warframe-builder.com/Sentinel_Weapons/Builder/Prime_laser_rifle/t_30_22223002_132-2-5-133-4-5-137-0-10-138-5-5-140-3-5-149-6-5-150-1-10-159-7-5_137-7-150-8-132-8-140-5-133-6-138-11-149-9-159-5/en/12-0-7/14259/0

http://warframe-builder.com/Sentinel_Weapons/Builder/Deth_machine_rifle/t_30_30022222_132-6-5-133-1-5-134-3-5-137-4-10-138-0-5-149-7-5-150-5-10-163-2-3_138-6-133-11-163-9-134-6-137-7-150-8-132-8-149-5/en/12-0-2/14262/0 

http://warframe-builder.com/Sentinel_Weapons/Builder/Stinger/t_30_30022222_128-3-3-132-6-5-133-1-5-137-4-10-138-0-5-149-7-5-150-5-10-163-2-3_138-6-133-11-163-9-128-4-137-7-150-8-132-8-149-5/en/12-0-4/14267/0

 

On paper. That damage assumes you are standing in an enemy's face for the entire duration of the windup, without losing line of sight with an enemy. If you take cover, for example, the DMR stops shooting, and it has to wind up all over again once you get out from behind cover or when it targets a new enemy.

 

It's a good weapon, but that's something you have to take into account when you compare it to the Wyrm Prime rifle, which requires no windup.

 

I'm sorry, not exactly on topic, but do Sentinel weapons give mastery points??

 

Yes.

Edited July 10, 2014 by Noble_Cactus

[Darzk]

You can't practically utilize Heavy Cal on the DMR. The accuracy loss is too much for the already not-great accuracy Sentinels. The miss rate negates the increase in damage unless they're right on top of you. On the other hand, enemies are close enough when using Carrier or a partially leveled attack precept.

 

DMR in particular really benefits from stacking Shred and Speed trigger to minimize spinup, and without HCal works decently well at range, but it does have some spread. Is the PRL nearly perfectly accurate on stationary targets like the old non-prime rifle was? 

 

Looking at those builder links I'm thinking some projectile travel time is not gonna be enough of a disadvantage to counter having 3-4x more burst DPS, which is, imo, the more relevant statistic than just looking at sustained. Still, a clip of 5 limits damage to ~2500, while DMR pulls ~6 times that before forcing a reload.

[LordOfWar666]

You can't practically utilize Heavy Cal on the DMR. The accuracy loss is too much for the already not-great accuracy Sentinels. The miss rate negates the increase in damage unless they're right on top of you. On the other hand, enemies are close enough when using Carrier or a partially leveled attack precept.

 

DMR in particular really benefits from stacking Shred and Speed trigger to minimize spinup, and without HCal works decently well at range, but it does have some spread. Is the PRL nearly perfectly accurate on stationary targets like the old non-prime rifle was? 

 

Looking at those builder links I'm thinking some projectile travel time is not gonna be enough of a disadvantage to counter having 3-4x more burst DPS, which is, imo, the more relevant statistic than just looking at sustained. Still, a clip of 5 limits damage to ~2500, while DMR pulls ~6 times that before forcing a reload.

DMR whit heavy caliber has more accuracy than RLP, the travel time of RLP is horrible and destroy all the acuracy. DMR have 100% of precision, whit heavy caliber 45% very good on mid range. Anything centinel weapon is good for long distances, but the best is the DMR even whit heavy caliber.

PD: Sorry for my english

Edited July 11, 2014 by LordOfWar666

[Catalyst1945]

Sorry about reviving this topic, but I find Stabiliser helping my Wyrm Prime's accuracy tremendously