SmokinDevil Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 People under the age of 20? Do I win? Well...Yeah. You do. I can't realy argue against that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juniya Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 So trying to provide a helpful service to the community without asking anything in return is a behavior that deserves to be punished? I don't follow the logic here. Please explain. He was just a... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
achromos Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 (edited) Lol some of you get so hurt over some nodes and alliances that dont even matter. If you want to take back the pluto DS then do a little less typing and a little more acting. I spent 8+ hours! defending SECHURA for free with OTHER people who could barely log in, so take this argument elsewhere. I was not only fighting the game to LET me log in, but to let me in a mission AND to let me actually even get into a match where the host didn't DC AND if the gods themselves smiled upon me they would allow me to join a mission that didn't have a laggy host. So, please. Don't assume. It's really annoying. Edited July 30, 2014 by Sibarian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmokinDevil Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 So don't act like they didn't have public support, LOOK at the history of their victory's, the ONLY reason why SC Lol. Look at some of the opponents there. You know they didn't try. Or at least, didn't try hard enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landwalrus Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Ironically, none of this even touches the fact that in game, Rail conflicts suck. Defenders in game have a huge advtantage for no reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TashaPrime Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Being that ICE is just a reincarnation of Eclipse including a portion of their alliance clans, I personally will never support ICE. If it was not for all the glitchy play of the Dark Sector rails I would have tried to prevent their wining it this time but then I am only one player and I have to sleep some time. I hope the community learns something from this and does something about it. High Taxation kills the rails for everyone. Just as when you go to a store are you going to shop in store that has 12% tax on something that you can go ten miles away and buy that same product at a 5% tax or lower? GET IT TOGETHER warframe community............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khranitel Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Wasn't ICE offering 150,000 credits? I'm sorry but I'm going to play for attackers. And thats exactly what I call 'short-minded slave's way of thinking'. Next time when you will need credits and your beloved 'attackers' will be not in the mood to allow you to have it, what would you do? Go to Sechura? Nope, taxed. Hieracon? Nope, taxed to the skies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khranitel Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 (edited) Ironically, none of this even touches the fact that in game, Rail conflicts suck. Defenders in game have a huge advtantage for no reason. Like which one? A lone power recharger that goes to attacker after 1st objective done? Or possibility to attacker to make an attack without defenders presenting in the match? Attackers can make a zerg rush just by paybaiting infinite number of mindless drones. Defenders can't. This one reason is enough to see that this whole system is highly imbalanced in favor of attacking side. Edited July 30, 2014 by Khranitel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khranitel Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Lol some of you get so hurt over some nodes and alliances that dont even matter. If you want to take back the pluto DS then do a little less typing and a little more acting. Save this hypocritical bla-bla for the times when placing an attack rail will not be a game of clicks and better connection to WF server. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clone3216k Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Being that ICE is just a reincarnation of Eclipse including a portion of their alliance clans, I personally will never support ICE. If it was not for all the glitchy play of the Dark Sector rails I would have tried to prevent their wining it this time but then I am only one player and I have to sleep some time. I hope the community learns something from this and does something about it. High Taxation kills the rails for everyone. Just as when you go to a store are you going to shop in store that has 12% tax on something that you can go ten miles away and buy that same product at a 5% tax or lower? GET IT TOGETHER warframe community............ How do you know that people from Eclipse are part of ICE? If you got your information from someone on the forum how do you know that they are not spreading misinformation and just trying to frame them by associating them with a alliance that everybody hates? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmokinDevil Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 And thats exactly what I call 'short-minded slave's way of thinking'. Next time when you will need credits and your beloved 'attackers' will be not in the mood to allow you to have it, what would you do? Go to Sechura? Nope, taxed. Hieracon? Nope, taxed to the skies. See? This is why this kind of discussion isn't worth having. So you keep thinking that. People's best option is to rally together and take them down. The conflict is still open. I'll come by and swoop up any pay that is there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-VS-AtLasVegas Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 No, we never demanded from SC 0%, but we appreciated it and supported them tooth and nail all the same. Be at least honest to yourself. Ofc you demanded a 0% rail - there were hundreds of alliances without any recources and a ready rail to rush those nodes in that moment where the tax rise to +1%. The are only two categories - alliances that don't charge anything and alliances that have a tax. If you are the second type you loose any "status" as a martyr of the "good old system". In other words - everybody wants a free exploit, without any force to use complicated systems to gain the same goods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-VS-AtLasVegas Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Lol. Look at some of the opponents there. You know they didn't try. Or at least, didn't try hard enough. 99% of those were blocking, passive rails to prevent any serious attacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleesus Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Save this hypocritical bla-bla for the times when placing an attack rail will not be a game of clicks and better connection to WF server. All this and other posts is complaining because you guys didnt get your way. You guys for some reason think that majority of the community agrees with you and shares your concerns about tax free rails when they obviously dont. Instead of coming to the forums makings 10+ threads a day about certain nodes and alliances why dont you get people together and do something about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adaptor-Face Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 (edited) All this and other posts is complaining because you guys didnt get your way. You guys for some reason think that majority of the community agrees with you and shares your concerns about tax free rails when they obviously dont. Instead of coming to the forums makings 10+ threads a day about certain nodes and alliances why dont you get people together and do something about it. you get 1 split second every 36-48(?) hours to "do something about it" Edited July 30, 2014 by Adaptor-Face Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleesus Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 you get 1 split second every 36-48(?) hours to "do something about it" which is 1 second more than anything complaining about it on the forums will do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmokinDevil Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 you get 1 split second every 36-48(?) hours to "do something about it" You could go play for V on Sechura right now. You have 12 hours for that. When the next alliance/clan comes you have another 12 hours for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StinkyPygmy Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 (edited) Be at least honest to yourself. Ofc you demanded a 0% rail - there were hundreds of alliances without any recources and a ready rail to rush those nodes in that moment where the tax rise to +1%. The are only two categories - alliances that don't charge anything and alliances that have a tax. If you are the second type you loose any "status" as a martyr of the "good old system". In other words - everybody wants a free exploit, without any force to use complicated systems to gain the same goods. Thats not entirely true. Believe it or not there are players that don't particularly care either way. I'm more of the mind 0% tax is a about as good as 15% or maybe even 25%, especially seeing as the credits are just a bonus for me. Hell I'll even play with higher tax rates, its just once you start creeping into the 50%+ plus area it does start to come down to the principle of the thing. Mostly because its not even like the clan or alliance itself gains anything from such a high tax in the first place. Assuming I have some desperate need to go to a high tax node then I'll still likely play there, because I have little interest in DS politics. But to cut it that black and white is a bit much. Edited July 30, 2014 by StinkyPygmy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edelirium Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 I am sure more taxless alliances will come by to take them back in due time. In the meantime, I'll just farm my XP/Cred elsewhere. Plenty of planets out there, so I'm not too terribly concerned. It's always a shame to see things like this happen, though. Ah well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-VS-AtLasVegas Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 (edited) Thats not entirely true. Believe it or not there are players that don't particularly care either way. I'm more of the mind 0% tax is a about as good as 15% or maybe even 25%, especially seeing as the credits are just a bonus for me. Hell I'll even play with higher tax rates, its just once you start creeping into the 50%+ plus area it does start to come down to the principle of the thing. Mostly because its not even like the clan or alliance itself gains anything from such a high tax in the first place. Assuming I have some desperate need to go to a high tax node then I'll still likely play there, because I have little interest in DS politics. But to cut it that black and white is a bit much. If you check my previous posts, you will see, that you are the type of player like myself. This last post (that you are dealing with) was more like an answer to a conversation above. It will be Sibarian who would fit in the "believe it or not" section. Edited July 30, 2014 by -ExT-AtLasVegas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReizoRyuu Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Are the times on those pictures accurate? Cause it's pretty interesting then that every conflicted lasted for 12 hours except for the ones after the pvp dark sectors launch. Seriously though how do you lose a rail in 2 hours? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PachTrick Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Nobody eclipsed Eclipse^^ Eclipse eclipsed on their own. You could be right, they eclipsed on their own because they lost their rails lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PachTrick Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Are the times on those pictures accurate? Cause it's pretty interesting then that every conflicted lasted for 12 hours except for the ones after the pvp dark sectors launch. Seriously though how do you lose a rail in 2 hours? Because DS is badly designed at the moment allowing for exploits. Attackers win so easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D3ST Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Soon there will be 100% tribute ratings on every rail in the game, combined with the recent X4 nerf of the XP gained from DS nodes. I dont see myself playing this game much longer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arabaxus Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 >Last free rail Ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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