Tesseract_The_Pariah Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 U14 is a framework. One that took a long time to make.To all of you complaining about no new content, just remember all u14 has actually done. A new UIVor's FREAKIN Prize A better new user experience Tamogatchi The Obligitory addition of weapons and warframes and last, but not least... Quests and Lore. Basically... Everything we've been whining about for months. So... Why are you complaining?Is it perhaps that you're bored of Warframe? By all means, stick your Kubrow in the fridge and go play other games. It's what I do. Just because the player count lulls between updates doesnt mean the game is dying. It means people burn through the content... and is there anything really wrong with that?Not really.Are you complaining due to the fact that "DE DONE LIED TO US ABOUT KUBROWS!!!11!1!!eleven!!"Are you really gonna pull that?You have to be a damn idiot to let a Kubrow die. it takes 20 days. TWENTY DAYSCount. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20Twenty.If you don't take care of your kubrow for twenty days, thats your fault. Can't access your computer?Give your account info to a friend. A trusted friend, of course, and have them put your Kubrow in the freezer.There you have it.Twenty. Days. Is it because of Kubrows in general?They're really powerful. They can eat anything. There will be drawbacks. You have to take care of the kubrow and it'll take care of you - and besides, it's not like its difficult. Need Stabilizers? Run Sechura(or any other Dark Sector or Void) a few times. Poof, there you have it. And then there's the fact that if you don't want a Kubrow there's nothing making you get one. Is it because nothing has changed?Because really, not much can at this point. Warframe is really what it is. If you're completely burnt out, that's not really anyone's fault. You get tired of games. It's a fact. I've gotten bored of Warframe, having played for about 1200 hours. It's just life, Warframe isn't a bad game because of it....DE might be godly, but they can't stop human psychology. Upset that RNG is still a thing?Really, thats just gonna be this game's flaw. Not a very good excuse, they could fix it, but every game has its crux, its Achilles heel. Its weakness. The RNG in this game actually isnt all that bad compared to others. ... Not to mention RNG will be more than mitigated by Quests! For instance, there is 0% RNG involved in getting Mirage. Is it because the game's easy still?Yeah, I don't like that either. DE fix pls.U14 is an amazing update that adds a great foundation for DE to build upon. I look forward to whatever comes next in this game's development.And one last thing... Do take a look at solar rails. They're quite fun now and I think that they'll be a big part in Warframe's future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeanutMonster Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Let people just calm down. Threads like these just encourage people to complain more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smooth00 Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 +1, for standing up for whats right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaugahn Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 A new UI The main complaint people seem to have is right there. Personally I don't understand it, but some people apparently can't even stand the idea of this UI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arsyadpower Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 eh, people complaining? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoopStricken Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 So... Why are you complaining? Is it perhaps that you're bored of Warframe? . No, it's because the new UI is objectively more awkward, less informative and less intuitive to use compared to the old one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesseract_The_Pariah Posted August 13, 2014 Author Share Posted August 13, 2014 (edited) No, it's because the new UI is objectively more awkward, less informative and less intuitive to use compared to the old one. It's also immersive and has added a level of involvement to the game that was missing before. Besides, is it just the UI making you quit Warframe? I don't see the big fuss.... Edited August 13, 2014 by Gaminus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoboDoge Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 U14 wasnt quality update gamplay wise. I can only say that, as i am not impressed by new UI ( not user friendly, at least not PC user friendly ) and Batllamadogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaugahn Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 It's also immersive and has added a level of involvement to the game that was missing before. Besides, is it just the UI making you quit Warframe? I don't see the big fuss.... Visit the UI forum. Half the people are convinced PC players are being victimized, and the other half would prefer a spreadsheet for a menu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesseract_The_Pariah Posted August 13, 2014 Author Share Posted August 13, 2014 Visit the UI forum. Half the people are convinced PC players are being victimized, and the other half would prefer a spreadsheet for a menu. Victimized? Really? I'm gonna grab a drink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoboDoge Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Victimized? Really? I'm gonna grab a drink. You will need popcorn also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tehnoobshow Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Visit the UI forum. Half the people are convinced PC players are being victimized, and the other half would prefer a spreadsheet for a menu. This. SO much this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoopStricken Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 It's also immersive and has added a level of involvement to the game that was missing before. Besides, is it just the UI making you quit Warframe? I don't see the big fuss.... Immersion doesn't matter a damn if the thing doesn't work properly. And I'm not quitting, I'm just waiting for a way to release my Kubrows so I can get the last two I need for mastery. The big fuss is, the new UI is just pretty for pretty's sake. under the old UI, how would you go to the Arsenal? The Foundry? the Inbox? You'd click their respective button at the top of the screen. Now? You have to go through the unnecessarily-nested Escape menu, or spend time walking around the ship (which is fun the first few times but it's not a big ship and the novelty quickly wears off). A lot of the UI problems, in my opinion, could be fixed in a few simple ways (which would all be contained in a toggleable option so people don't complain that they actually enjoyed the current awkward style): 1) Expand the initial ESC menu to show more things at once. 2) Whenever a screen is entered, ie the Mod panel or the Foundry, quickly fade to black and replace it with the pre-14 fullscreen version. 3) My own personal desire - the ability to change the lighting, background etc in the Arsenal for better colouring of frames and weapons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerZeyCJ Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 It's also immersive and has added a level of involvement to the game that was missing before. But it fails at being a good UI. a UI's goal should always be efficiency and this one is less efficient than the previous. I never wanted more "immersion" in my menu system, I wanted easy usability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Crackle2012 Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 The railroad track : ----> ------------ ------------ This Thread's future : ------> ----------- ---------\ \ \ \ \ \ *KABOOM* AKA. Just a friendly reminder to keep it Civil guys :-) TY! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenosInfinity Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 It's also immersive and has added a level of involvement to the game that was missing before. Besides, is it just the UI making you quit Warframe? I don't see the big fuss.... When you're not actually in a mission, immersion isn't really hugely necessary. Previously, if you wanted to go from buying an item in the market to modding it immediately, you pressed the Arsenal button at the top of the screen. Now you have to close the market and either press Esc > Inventory > Arsenal or walk through your Liset to get to the arsenal manually. To upgrade a mod that was installed on something, you clicked Mods, then Installed at the top, then you upgraded it. Now when you click Mods, it takes you to a screen with a separate subselector for fusion, selling, transmuting and viewing your collection, and half the time if a mod is installed on a sentinel or kubrow upgrading it forcibly uninstalls the mod and doesn't actually limit the upgrades to your available mod capacity as a result. I like the style of the new UI, and I have no complaints about the new content, but the new inventory and arsenal management is just less convenient than it used to be. That isn't an arguable point, it objectively takes longer to do things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kestral9999 Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 No, it's because the new UI is objectively more awkward, less informative and less intuitive to use compared to the old one. Get a PS4 and enjoy it for a few more days/weeks. That's pretty much your only option because DE has stated the old UI is never coming back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoboDoge Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 The railroad track : ----> ------------ ------------ This Thread's future : ------> ----------- ---------\ \ \ \ \ \ *KABOOM* AKA. Just a friendly reminder to keep it Civil guys :-) TY! You will move this to the UI Feedback soon, as things are going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kylecrafts Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 It's also immersive and has added a level of involvement to the game that was missing before. Besides, is it just the UI making you quit Warframe? I don't see the big fuss.... Because: Function>Frivolity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesseract_The_Pariah Posted August 13, 2014 Author Share Posted August 13, 2014 (edited) Immersion doesn't matter a damn if the thing doesn't work properly. And I'm not quitting, I'm just waiting for a way to release my Kubrows so I can get the last two I need for mastery. The big fuss is, the new UI is just pretty for pretty's sake. under the old UI, how would you go to the Arsenal? The Foundry? the Inbox? You'd click their respective button at the top of the screen. Now? You have to go through the unnecessarily-nested Escape menu, or spend time walking around the ship (which is fun the first few times but it's not a big ship and the novelty quickly wears off). A lot of the UI problems, in my opinion, could be fixed in a few simple ways (which would all be contained in a toggleable option so people don't complain that they actually enjoyed the current awkward style): 1) Expand the initial ESC menu to show more things at once. 2) Whenever a screen is entered, ie the Mod panel or the Foundry, quickly fade to black and replace it with the pre-14 fullscreen version. 3) My own personal desire - the ability to change the lighting, background etc in the Arsenal for better colouring of frames and weapons. But it fails at being a good UI. a UI's goal should always be efficiency and this one is less efficient than the previous. I never wanted more "immersion" in my menu system, I wanted easy usability. Because: Function>Frivolity Let me show you the sheer beauty of Warframe's new UI. User interfaces are meant to be easy to navigate, correct? They're meant to imitate how you move about rooms in a logical manner, sorting through menus that are -hopefully- well thought out and placed. DE cut out the middle man. Need to go to the arsenal? One step to your right. Need a Kubrow cuddle? Dont be daft, man! Go over there and just cuddle your Kubrow! Immersive, Simple, and Beautiful. Everything you could ask from a UI - and it's all in your worldspace, right there in the same space as your character. The railroad track : ----> ------------ ------------ This Thread's future : ------> ----------- ---------\ \ \ \ \ \ *KABOOM* AKA. Just a friendly reminder to keep it Civil guys :-) TY! I love the mods on these forums. When you're not actually in a mission, immersion isn't really hugely necessary. Previously, if you wanted to go from buying an item in the market to modding it immediately, you pressed the Arsenal button at the top of the screen. Now you have to close the market and either press Esc > Inventory > Arsenal or walk through your Liset to get to the arsenal manually. To upgrade a mod that was installed on something, you clicked Mods, then Installed at the top, then you upgraded it. Now when you click Mods, it takes you to a screen with a separate subselector for fusion, selling, transmuting and viewing your collection, and half the time if a mod is installed on a sentinel or kubrow upgrading it forcibly uninstalls the mod and doesn't actually limit the upgrades to your available mod capacity as a result. I like the style of the new UI, and I have no complaints about the new content, but the new inventory and arsenal management is just less convenient than it used to be. That isn't an arguable point, it objectively takes longer to do things. One point covered earlier, the others are legitimate. DE fix pls. Edited August 13, 2014 by Gaminus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kestral9999 Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 (edited) The fact that a developer has the balls to engineer something catered towards a console rather than the pcmasterrace shows so much gumption I can't even be bothered to care about all the whining from these new UI haters. The funny thing is, Ye Olde UI wasn't suited towards console or controller players. The new one puts everyone on pretty much equal grounds since it's not geared specifically for mouse users anymore. Personally, I like it. It's not quite as quick as the old one but that's because your immersed in an actual space now rather than kneeling in netherspace. Your mouse controls your view rather than a cursor. If you truly cannot stand that, drop the game from your life. Clearly you are too petty a person to accept change and since this game is constantly changing, it's not going to suit you. Edited August 13, 2014 by Kestral9999 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kestral9999 Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Because: Function>Frivolity It still has all the functionality of the old UI, it's not as quick because that is what comes with giving dynamic control to the player. People just can't be bothered to hit ESC when they need to do something can they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PookieNumnums Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 its just a few clicks more quit dieing it just needs a few aspects made more In ur Face as well as removig the intermediary mods action selection scree. i can see how not having collection fusion and xmute readily avail from one menu could rustle jimmies. other than that i dont see what the big deal is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Crackle2012 Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 This thread has gone from constructive, to non constructive, to pointless with a side of personal attacks. Locking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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