Update 7.9.0: The Glaive

[NalkorRN]

I like how no one complains about any other weapon being "?" only.

 

Only this one.

Probably because none of the other weapons come from Dark Sector, which turned the Glaive from a laughable weapon in Krull to the totally awesome weapon used to take down (read: sever limbs/heads with appropriate death screams and animations when something is removed) Lasrian Soldiers and Technocyte zombies. Seriously, guide the Glaive to taking off an enemy's arm or leg in dark Sector and they'll fall down and start screaming and clutching the area while dying.

 

Also, the Glaive was a free unlimited use long-range weapon in a game where you had to make your gunshots count.

[-R-Arkanphel]

Thx,but too little damage.Increase to 35.

[NalkorRN]

The problem is that as an exclusively close ranged weapon, the Strun is better than it in almost every way.  The Hek barely does more damage than the strun, but the strun has a polarity (the ridiculously good V one to boot) that more than makes up for that deficiency.  Accuracy used to be the advantage the Hek had over the Strun, but with the damage falloff, they're both good at the same range.  Add in the two extra shots in the Strun and there's not really any reason to use the Hek, which is a slap in the face considering the amount of grinding you need for the Hek.

 

There was definitely a problem and it needed to be fixed, but this just feels heavy handed. 

 

Really, if the Hek had the Strun's previous effective range, I think it'd be fine.

The Strun uses the - Polarity, the dash-looking one, not the V polarity, sadly. Still, it's one more Polarity slot the Hek/Boar have.

 

edit: I finally decided to take my level 30 Strun with Incendiary Coat 8, (4 in the slot) Point Blank 7, Hell's Chamber 13, and Flechette 5 on an M Prime run to see how well it'd do. You know that big open room that had some lockers on top in the back, with two stairwells on the left and right side that are on the outer side of three 'lanes' separated by pillars of crates and barrels? I got up against the wall on the right side and took a shot at a Grineer Soldier. the shotgun one, who was using the 'pillar' on the left side as cover. He was level 1 or 2. I made sure I was aiming down sights to ensure all the pellets hit. At that close range, a distance I could clear in less than one second using a jump kick or attack that would also put that shotgunner on the ground for a quick stab, I had to fire that Strun three times dead center at his torso to kill him.

 

That's a level 30, non-potato'd Strun using damage and multishot mods. You can buy that gun out the gate if you so choose, and even at level 30 and mods it, at such a pitifuly short range, did less damage than a downward stab of a Skana would do.

Edited April 28, 2013 by NalkorRN

[the3rdK]

i think the glaive bp should be available, but it should require like.. rank 5 or 6 to actually own (like the hek was).

theres no reason why it should be readily available to any player of any rank, as it is a specialised weapon (like hek, gorgon)

making it an alert only drop is kind of harsh.

also, all the other alert only weapons are kind of pointless (i hardly see them being used, except the dark sword,) as i did use most already and considered them inferior to weapons i got from the standard market. as they are now they dont do much to justify getting them, apart from the fact that they look different.

[Mogar]

you should probably fix the hek before people rage, the glave blueprint should be in the shop by all rights its riducless that its only in alerts its a amazing cool weapon atleast make it so people who dont pay alot of money can get it easyer,

adding new damage deformers is cool, i also have a freind whos raging about the gorgon imo you should not keep the spi nas much i think it shoudl be if u reload well its spinning then it should keep the spin not the way it currently is, thank yo ufor fixing the continuty mod with my sayrn^^ ,

ashs bladestorm needs to have a wider base range i use it on a enemy in a room it should go based off the first target hit for its raidus not where u were standing when u activate it it feels like thats how it was.

id love to have this said now PLEASE make it so u can get the scythe blueprint into the shop ill freaking rage if its only alert thats Bs u should make it expecive atleast but still put it in there i wouldent mind the glave blueprint costing alot like 100kish would even be doable so long as the way to make it isent to bad Also Can you add credit prices to more of the guns in the shop to buy them outright?

Signed Areo 

So lets just add Dark Sword, Dark Daggers, Heat Sword, Heat Dagger, Ceramic Dagger, Pangolin Sword, Jaw Sword, Plasma Sword, etc to the marketplace as blueprints and totally destroy the appeal for Alerts.

Yeah that wont make the boring less fun /sarcasm

Also you don't seem to know how Free2Play makes it's money so let me explain it to you. The appeal of this game compared to other f2p/p2w games is that you actually EARN your gear through gameplay. But if you don't want to use your time or would just like to help the developers you can go and outright buy them with plat (real money). It comes fully potatoed too so the benefits are def there. But if they make weapons available to buy using creds all that will happen is less players are going to be on farming because they don't need to get blueprints anymore.

 

And I don't know about you but I come back to this game BECAUSE it takes so long to craft things. Personally I like the idea of "Hey that weapons going to be finished in 8hrs, guess I know what Ill be doing then" instead of a random drop or just farming gold for countless hours like in other games.

You have way more control over the things you'll get in this game than in any other game. Where most others you might have a gun you want but can't get it till rank 25. And sure this game has ranked weapon locks too but it's only a couple.

Also no other game affects me in the real world like this one does. Every half hour or so I check online to see if an alert that I want has popped.

 

Edited April 28, 2013 by Mogar

[Syaniide]

Ok I for one don't think its a bad thing that you can't buy the glaive BP. There has been tons of post about "Why do the alert weapons look cool but are utterly useless!?!". So to fix this problem (Though I still say they should buff up some of the old alert weapons...) they gave us a really cool weapon where the BP drops from a alert mission only and couldn't be bought. Im glad they did this as it looks like a sign that they are actually going to make alert weapon drops worth the effort.

[Namacyst]

Let them make money out of the impatient... and let the cool guys farm Glaive from alerts. I'm totally fine with it... and cool :D

[Syaniide]

also, all the other alert only weapons are kind of pointless (i hardly see them being used, except the dark sword,) as i did use most already and considered them inferior to weapons i got from the standard market. as they are now they dont do much to justify getting them, apart from the fact that they look different.

 This post... that's why the glaive BP isn't on the market.

[Kohei]

Thank you guys!
The new Mod menu's graphics is awesome!!

[Sherbethomes]

Has anyone noticed that shockwave moa's have changed color? i don't know whether it was intended or not but it's making defense mission quite hard to play when there are moa's and shockwaves all in the one group.

[_Rue_]

Has anyone noticed that shockwave moa's have changed color? i don't know whether it was intended or not but it's making defense mission quite hard to play when there are moa's and shockwaves all in the one group.

 

i think it's a tactic to confuse you. :) That yellow color was like a bulls eye whenever they popped up. They finally figured it out i guess. The railgun moas aren't important enough to be part of this tactical improvement lol

[Zarozian]

REBUFF THE HEK!

Edited April 28, 2013 by Zarozian

[Aligarr]

Ash still attacks cameras during bladestorm....

[Zarozian]

Ash still attacks cameras during bladestorm....

Oh yes and sometimes he gets stuck there~ Which is funny but hes also good for attacking enemies that get glitched in places where no one else can reach! So his bladestorm is pretty useful till they fix the mob glitching~

[InFlames]

So lets just add Dark Sword, Dark Daggers, Heat Sword, Heat Dagger, Ceramic Dagger, Pangolin Sword, Jaw Sword, Plasma Sword, etc to the marketplace as blueprints and totally destroy the appeal for Alerts.

 

 

In all time that i played warframe, never saw a fellow tenno using one of those mentioned above.

What i see is : 

Fang, Dual ether/Dual heat, Scindo, Fraggor, Amphis, Dual Ether daggers

then some times a Dual Zoren and a couple Furax.

So... i assume no one does these alerts to actually craft those swords because they just aren't worth it.

 

Let's say erm..

80% of the people sell these BP's right away.

Edited April 28, 2013 by Mr.Pava

[Bhargo]

Nerf to my favorite weapon type and an awesome weapon restricted by plat only or annoying rare ? alert rewards.

 

I've been waiting for an update that would give me reason to log in again, this isn't it.

[Mogar]

In all time that i played warframe, never saw a fellow tenno using one of those mentioned above.

What i see is : 

Fang, Dual ether/Dual heat, Scindo, Fraggor, Amphis, Dual Ether daggers

then some times a Dual Zoren and a couple Furax.

So... i assume no one does these alerts to actually craft those swords because they just aren't worth it.

 

Let's say erm..

80% of the people sell these BP's right away.

I don't mean to say that the alert bp weapons are amazingly good, I mean in the end all the weapons are just little tweaks and variations of the standard weapons you have. And I too having most of those weapons still stick with my Gram.

But what I'm saying is that having weapons as an Alert only drop has never been something new and should welcome the addition of more Alert BP weapons instead of wanting everything from the start.

 

[svenvollfied]

no glaive blueprints.... thanks for that...i dont want that weapon T_T

[ChickenBar]

why, just why make my Aklato firing so slow. it's not like Mk1 Braton slow, it's Latron slow

why, cuz firing akimbo pistols as fast as I can press is a sin?

why, cuz double tapping like a real life pistol is a sin?

why, cuz having a double fire rate than its single counterpart is not reasonable?

why, JUST WHY??

[InFlames]

I don't mean to say that the alert bp weapons are amazingly good, I mean in the end all the weapons are just little tweaks and variations of the standard weapons you have. And I too having most of those weapons still stick with my Gram.

But what I'm saying is that having weapons as an Alert only drop has never been something new and should welcome the addition of more Alert BP weapons instead of wanting everything from the start.

 

 

yea i know that, but i think the list of weapons should be exactly the opposite, the small list i made above (gona crtl+v here).

 

 

 

What i see is : 

Fang, Dual ether/Dual heat, Scindo, Fraggor, Amphis, Dual Ether daggers

then some times a Dual Zoren and a couple Furax.

 

 

Let me add quickly the Gram aswell ^^

 

 

Now this list should be the ONES in the alert missions so we could actually go into the alerts to get something good and not just go there and rush it our to get a couple thousand credits and BP to sell right away.

Or the list of weapons that is currently in the alert missions drop system or whatever it is should be buffed in order to have some kind of different ability to make them a viable choice against these that are considered the "good" weapons.

Edited April 28, 2013 by Mr.Pava

[InFlames]

annnd i do not know why all the text got that blue thingy .-.

[Iridon]

Yay hek is no longer an OP piece of crap.

 

Also everyone should stop complaining about something new being a ? reward. Frankly all the ? Rewards are lame compared to what you can get in the store with the exception of the Dark Sword.  We need more ? things to be a kickass weapon to keep them as something special you feel like you've earned rather than just having the same imbalanced weapon like everyone else does ( Dual Ethers)

Edited April 28, 2013 by Iridon

[NeoRetro10K]

I agree that shotguns were overpowered before this update, but I've just played a mission with my shotgun after this update, and I have to say they overdid the nerf. Shotguns went from overpowered to useless. Maybe just tweak the falloff a bit to make it a BIT more forgiving?

[Implodingbanana]

awesome Glaive wished it would be easier to kill enemies when it flies back tho but its really awesome how it comes out of the hand :D it awesome

[Implodingbanana]

i like the fact that the blueprint is only available via alert because in the end when ur waiting to finish the building that took half the day it feels even better at the end since u actually worked to get it.