Pizzarugi Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 How many relays have we lost already? 3? 4? I've kinda stopped tracking after the second one was destroyed, no real reason honestly. The forums has been in all the rage when the fomorians just roll on through and decimate the relays, sometimes forcing DE to step in and shut threads down due to too much flaming and conflict. Its clear that some of the community really love the relay concept, others think its a waste of time and others still feel the whole archwing concept is arbitrary.My thread is mostly being aimed at those who believe we are intentionally letting the relays burn. Hopefully this will also provide some insight for DE as to why some of us don't care about hitting fomorians more than once and maybe they won't repeat this same mistake in future events.The only way to engage the fomorian is if you, the player, possesses at least 1 disruptor. This disruptor requires 3500 nano spores, 4 omega isotopes and 300 cryotic. The item is also consumable, meaning its lost as soon as it is used on the fomorian. If you play in teams, this means you will lose the item even if you were nowhere near the core to damage it. Veterans (or at least people who spend huge amounts of time playing this game) will obviously have no problem obtaining the resources using weapons that will blow away the enemy, but people fail to remember there are those who don't play as often or are so new to the game that they're having trouble obtaining what they need for the event. The problem with this event is not primarily due to neglect from the community, its that there just isn't enough incentive to keep spending resources making consumable disruptors to attack a fomorian more than once. 50k-100k credits are cool and all, but only getting it once is not going to encourage people to keep coming back. And apparently, there's not enough people who play Warframe to make up for this, otherwise fomorians wouldn't succeed in taking out relays. I myself still have 25 disruptors on hand and I've already did 13/15 attacks (currently out of cryotic though), but I don't speak for the rest of the community who might not even be able to get nano spores for them. Players are not getting compensated enough to lose what they might consider to be precious materials in order to keep hitting fomorians, and DE isn't telling us anything about any potential penalty for not having certain relays.So, what's the point?DE needs to make returning trips to the fomorians worth the time and resources. Even if we get 50k-100k credits every 1m points, making this a repeated reward would be a great incentive for people to make more disruptors or work harder in getting the resources to make them. Alternatively, make the disruptor extremely expensive and time consuming, but make it reusable. This can just be one of many other possible rewards that I can think of.As for the community: If you want people to help contribute to fomorian destruction, be helpful and visit places on the solar system that yield cryotic or nano spores the quickest, where the poorer/weaker players go to for the resources. Don't sit back and blame some of us for not helping, when you're doing nothing to help those in need.To quote the leader of the Perrin Sequence: A shared prosperity can bring a shared peace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R34LM Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Off topic, but can someone stick on a Robin Willaims "It's not your fault" somewhere here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boerevla Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Well maybe we get an awesome mission type in the relayscrap, I'm sure a couple of relays will still exist when this event comes to an end. To me it seems the less there are, the better, we only need the void trader to come to one point and there's no difference to the user in another relay (yet). Of course I'm one of those people who gets the points and quits, but if that Vesper relay needs my help, oh how dead Hek will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arlayn Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 (edited) we have only lost 3. Remember EEE. The three planets that lost their relays started with the letter E. Off topic, but can someone stick on a Robin Willaims "It's not your fault" somewhere here? Too soon dude. Too soon. Edited December 30, 2014 by Arlayn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizzarugi Posted December 30, 2014 Author Share Posted December 30, 2014 Off topic, but can someone stick on a Robin Willaims "It's not your fault" somewhere here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasumi- Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Off topic, but can someone stick on a Robin Willaims "It's not your fault" somewhere here? Here ya go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boerevla Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 we have only lost 3. Remember EEE. The three planets that lost their relays started with the letter E. Eris ~ A planet overrun by infestation, who would want to stay there. Europa ~ Corpus and ice ice ice baby 2cold4tenno Earth ~ Hek's Home planet, why don't we let him keep it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karinia Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Or not just 1 void trader should travel around relays. More different trader with different goods and they stay at least 2-3 day at a relay. Other hands the variety of relays and " I'm talking about myself " It would be good if the archwing mission turn into an optional mission type and not a must have like the kubrow quest. First sight the archwing nice but atm not so diverse and less fun one times doing mission instead of a thrilling one. The rewarding is different because have a lot of missions which not give enough to motivate to do more. The void missions typicaly this one where you can get significantly much compared to the others except dark sectors "with low tax". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sziklamester Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Personaly not like the archwing at all but the relays are nice concepts but the variation and the trader limitations is atm bad. I am prefer to do the same with dojo if we have a "family" with similar interesting tennos but atm the dojo is just used for research and trade. Not living enough and not worth enough to spend a huge amount of time there and same with the relays with two differences 1. there are some npc "still not living" 2. there you cannot build "no have permission to do" something. I would like to see more implementations to improve the dojo's instead of making missions outside of the space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostSwordsman Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 we have only lost 3. Remember EEE. The three planets that lost their relays started with the letter E. Is DE sending a subliminal message?! That's exactly how to win at archwing currently, just press EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE... yeah, you get the idea. Eris ~ A planet overrun by infestation, who would want to stay there. Europa ~ Corpus and ice ice ice baby 2cold4tenno Earth ~ Hek's Home planet, why don't we let him keep it... I only disagree with Europa, my Frost Prime happens to love Europa and all it's shipwrecked icy goodness, not 3cold5tenno, and kicking some Corpus butt. May Leonov live in infamy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MechaTails Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 (edited) Of course it's our fault if the relays are destroyed. We're in charge of defending them, we fail and they get destroyed. End of that discussion. The problem is that players think there is some kind of "right" or "wrong" outcome, when there isn't. There is only an outcome that the players help shape, that's it. Just enjoy how the story unfolds Tenno, sheesh. Edited January 1, 2015 by DarkTails Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twilight053 Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 You realize they rigged the fomorian... it's no one's fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizzarugi Posted January 2, 2015 Author Share Posted January 2, 2015 (edited) Of course it's our fault if the relays are destroyed. We're in charge of defending them, we fail and they get destroyed. End of that discussion. The problem is that players think there is some kind of "right" or "wrong" outcome, when there isn't. There is only an outcome that the players help shape, that's it. Just enjoy how the story unfolds Tenno, sheesh. We're in charge of defending, yes, but we're not in charge on how much it costs to make what we NEED to defend and we're not in charge on how quickly we can get the materials. That's DE and RNG to decide. Edited January 2, 2015 by Pizzarugi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaronessBlacksilk Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 (edited) To be honest, I kind of like the idea that we have actually lost something in the game. It's not like we lost all of them and for me personally, it drives home my desire to stop the Grineer from taking anything for anyone. I know there are a lot of people that aren't as absorbed into the game world but it works for me. A bit of that letting the events tell the story as DE once put it. I look at it like the cut scenes in a game where you don't have control of a fight and your character loses but you know had you been given control, things would have gone differently. Edited January 2, 2015 by Amethyst_Orbweaver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MechaTails Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 We're in charge of defending, yes, but we're not in charge on how much it costs to make what we NEED to defend and we're not in charge on how quickly we can get the materials. That's DE and RNG to decide. Nonsense, play more, still all your faults rofl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLIMJIMMONSTER Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 (edited) im REALLY &!$$ed over this event I gives no chance to players to get all event items if they did not know about the event i PERSONALLY HAVE ALL EVENT ITEMS (all wraiths, vandals, scarf and Dex) and im going to fall one point short because of NO NEW FORMORIANS TODAY thanks DE never been somad at you guys im a really old player of warframe too VANDALS are my life for me to loose a vandal is is just a giant rage quit for me. main reason i love this game is because i have all of these event items please dont let me loose that love. i hope DE is too respond to this post. also this was the WORSE TIME for a event as its during the holidays (off topic but REALLY MESA FARMING this ame has turned into a "pay to win" i remember when it was "less of a pay to win" THATS when i spent money on this game) Thanks -SLIMJIMMONSTER EDIT: i only post somthing when im f0cking p!ssed and im F0CKING P!SSED OFF Edited January 3, 2015 by SLIMJIMMONSTER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupinswilly Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 im REALLY &!$$ed over this event I gives no chance to players to get all event items if they did not know about the event i PERSONALLY HAVE ALL EVENT ITEMS (all wraiths, vandals, scarf and Dex) and im going to fall one point short because of NO NEW FORMORIANS TODAY thanks DE never been somad at you guys im a really old player of warframe too VANDALS are my life for me to loose a vandal is is just a giant rage quit for me. main reason i love this game is because i have all of these event items please dont let me loose that love. i hope DE is too respond to this post. also this was the WORSE TIME for a event as its during the holidays (off topic but REALLY MESA FARMING this ame has turned into a "pay to win" i remember when it was "less of a pay to win" THATS when i spent money on this game) Thanks -SLIMJIMMONSTER EDIT: i only post somthing when im f0cking p!ssed and im F0CKING P!SSED OFF Dude, it's just a game. Calm down. Events are exactly that; special events. Limited time doesn't mean anything if it doesn't hold true. DE has been working their butts off to make this game spectacular, and I think they're doing a pretty good job. Just because you miss out on one thing doesn't mean that amazing things aren't coming Soon. To quit over something so trivial as an item that doesn't really even exist is churlish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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