Desard Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Everything I say post forth is from my memory which is a bit shaky at best so forgive me if I get things a little wrong. Firstly they are called the Sentients, this is our first clue as it assumes they are things that are not normally sentient, i.e. robots, rocks or PLANTS etc.. This led me to thinking about other clues in the game. The infested were created by the orokin to battle the sentients but the only infested that cant be tracked back to either Corpus or Grineer origin is the Ancients. The Ancients were described as PLANT BASED life forms by a dev (Steve I think) in a dev stream. Also they are called Ancients so they have been around for a long time, possible as long as the "old war"? Also it was said (in a dev stream) when the Orokin derelict tile set came out that it showed the "downfall of the Orokin", the derelicts clearly show they have been taken over by the "tree" type plant "vines" the Orokin used in there technology. It was said (in a few sources I believe) that the Sentients were able to "take over and use" all the technology the Orokin used against them, as we can see from the Orokin void tile set both the "vine type" plants and water are used a lot in Orokin technology. It was also hinted at the the next faction coming to the game would be the least human like faction so far, if the Ancients are anything to go by then we can that if indeed the Sentients are coming as a faction then this would fit that bill. All these clues seem to point at the Sentients being a plant based life-form that looks something like the Infested Ancients and have control of other plants. -Discuss- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NovusNova Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 All I remember them saying about the sentients is that they are more alien than anything in warframe yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunDownGrace Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 plants?that never occured to me but it makes as decent sense as anything else around here i digress a tad because the ancient are vaguely humanoid and there are already lots of vaguely humanoid things in the game but we shall wait and see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desard Posted January 8, 2015 Author Share Posted January 8, 2015 It just seems to me like too much fits together to be coincidence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopakkiin Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 I am killing plants? Guess that is alright. Carry on please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrNonApplicable Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 You should look at the lotus dialogue for the mirage quest. She refers to the sentients as worms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 (edited) Senients revealed Edited January 8, 2015 by Naith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunDownGrace Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 ah yes,mirage quest,eexcal codex,worms and worm like articulating ships Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZirilanOfTheClaw Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 And if the new faction was the Mutalist? thanthanthan... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krion112 Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Hold it, wait, no, Sentients were described as having heads. Ancients don't have cephalization, meaning they don't have a definitive head structure. Ancients are more likely Orokin creations made by them using the Technocyte virus to infect plants to do battle for them. It is shown of being capable of infecting those massive trees the Orokin have, so I doubt they'd have much problem in doing this. Also, Ancients are the only Infestation seen Corrupted in the towers, and yet none of the other forms are present, and DE just had an opportunity to add more infested units, alongside the Butcher and Nullifier, but they didn't, suggesting to me that the Ancients are an Orokin creation and that's why the Neural Sentry has a way to control it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syius Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 (edited) Sentients or 5th Faction were described as "the least humanoid looking faction of existing" not plant-like, also Mag prime codex indicate that soldiers fighting Sentients had to wear "Just ten men, like me, strapped in with the best zero-tech suits and weapons the empire could build..." Also as we have Proto-Excalibur skin that "Discovering the precise nature of this recently uncovered armored prototype has proved elusive. Initial attempts at dating point to ancient origins, perhaps even predating Orokin Empire." so that mean Infested existed before Orokin and as disease were "rediscovered" and used as dirty bombs. and yes i know that Proto-armor is darkSector reference but DESteave said that darkSector is prequel to Warframe (Devstream #10) and are happening in same universe just much time between edit: upsie, thanks Tymerc for finding this totally didnt noticed Edited January 8, 2015 by Syius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tymerc Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 (edited) I just want them to become a faction like they hinted at. I also want to fight them alone, like Mirage did. Sentients or 4th Faction were described as "the least humanoid looking faction of existing" not plant-like, also Mag prime codex indicate that soldiers fighting Sentients had to wear "Just ten men, like me, strapped in with the best zero-tech suits and weapons the empire could build..." Also as we have Proto-Excalibur skin that "Discovering the precise nature of this recently uncovered armored prototype has proved elusive. Initial attempts at dating point to ancient origins, perhaps even predating Orokin Empire." so that mean Infested existed before Orokin and as disease were "rediscovered" and used as dirty bombs. and yes i know that Proto-armor is darkSector reference but DESteave said that darkSector is prequel to Warframe (Devstream #10) 5th* faction, actually. In regards to enemies, we have: Corpus, Grineer, Infested and Corrupted. Sentients would be number five. Edited January 8, 2015 by Tymerc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunDownGrace Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 (edited) . Edited January 10, 2015 by GunDownGrace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tymerc Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 5th faction tenno,grineer,corpus,infested,and a new one would make 5 Wrong. The Corrupted are a faction too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desard Posted January 8, 2015 Author Share Posted January 8, 2015 Firstly From Mirage quest "The Void imprint... it's old. I see... Worm ships coming out of punch! A Warframe fighting Sentients... shields are failing..." From Mag Pime Codex entry "The countless articulating worm-ships of our enemy, ringed in glowing discs, undulating and heat-bursting the surviving soldiers like me" Neither say the Sentients are worms or worm like. Does a liset look like a Tenno? Does a Grineer Gallion look like a Grineer? Secondly There are plenty of enemy types that dont appear in the void towers as corrupted so i dont think what you said has much basis. Thirdly It has been said multiple times that the dark sector stuff is the same universe but is not necessarily part of the same timeline, i.e. an alternate timeline in the same universe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunDownGrace Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 (edited) Edited January 10, 2015 by GunDownGrace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tymerc Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 nah,we are both wrong to a point new faction means new faction,i didnt include corrupted cause they are rehashes of others,but if you wanna go that route tenno,grineer,corpus,infested,corrupted a new one sum total makes 6 I'm not wrong about anything. The Corrupted are a faction, "rehashes" or not. Perhaps you should study the lore of Warframe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunDownGrace Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 (edited) . Edited January 10, 2015 by GunDownGrace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desard Posted January 8, 2015 Author Share Posted January 8, 2015 Thanks for hijacking the thread with your argument :P Oh and just for the record if you go with the "factions" that are mentioned on the Official Warframe website there are 3 , Tenno, Grineer and Corpus. Also there are no mention of anything being a faction in the game. Also the corrupted are under the Orokin tab of the codex, so if they are a faction they are not there own faction but part of the Orokin "faction" itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunDownGrace Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 (edited) . Edited January 10, 2015 by GunDownGrace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morec0 Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 I argue that "sentients" is a term used because they were the first/only Sentient life to ever be countered outside of the Origin system by the Orokin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunDownGrace Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 I argue that "sentients" is a term used because they were the first/only Sentient life to ever be countered outside of the Origin system by the Orokin. agreed,who knows what they look like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desard Posted January 9, 2015 Author Share Posted January 9, 2015 nope,tenno arent orokin (atleast not anymore) since we killed them the corrupted are orokin proxys due to the neural sentry,that counts as a faction,names interchangeable the infested are a faction due to well,being zombies,having bosses also,the flimsy warframe.com guide doesnt talk about 90% of the stuff ingame,so using that as a sticking point is a bad choice at best Firstly nowhere did I say that the Tenno were Orokin so I dont know why you even mentioned that. Secondly it is only your opinion that the corrupted are proxies not fact, the facts are that nowhere inside the game are any group of anything called factions. Also the website is the only official documentation anywhere that uses the word faction and they say there are 3 and that is what I was reiterating. Thirdly saying that 90% of things in the game are not on the website is a fair(ish) statement but not only is it the website but the game itself that I am using as reference so that argument is a moot point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desard Posted January 9, 2015 Author Share Posted January 9, 2015 agreed,who knows what they look like? DE do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)FlyaThanAkitE Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Vash the stampede was a plant so was millions knives lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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