MechaTails Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Super boring, why bother playing the game, etc. DE should give us a kick option already. Like, as host, you can enter the kick command and a giant boot kicks the obnoxious warframe out of the game, then prevents them from joining any future game you host. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ensignvidiot Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 I dont mind it. I find something else to kill. Mesa IS limited by Line of Sight, so i find things outside of that and keep killing things. Or... from time to time, I just buff the Mesa (Roar/Total Eclipse/Banish) to let that player kill things faster. We're both on that node, at that time, just farming X. So why should I hate them for it? If it gets too annoying or boring, I can always leave the game and re-queue. We have like... millions of online players. I can always find someone else to play with. Bottom Line, Mesa's Peacemaker is the "New Thing" to whine about. Its new, its shiny and its VERY effective when built right. I still remember the QQ over Molecular prime, and Limbo, and Trinity, and Blind, and ViverGate, and RepFarm, and so on and so on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Toycammander666 Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 I actually get told to use mesa now lol she must not be that much of a burden lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)PillarOfWar Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Oh gawd please nerf the Mesa 4th ability so my Saryn can go back to nuking the map as nature intended. oooh and I can spam my machine gun too. But, for real I'm cool with Mesa, she is pretty neat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monolake Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 (edited) It's very boring design that requires no player actions, it even stops player from moving, just hold a button to make the game play itself. How to improve it without changing much? have her shoot only in direction (cone of view) the player is facing - now it's more interesting to use and giving player control of where she shoots could make it better in some situations too. Edited February 8, 2015 by Monolake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrKage Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 It's very boring design that requires no player actions, it even stops player from moving, just hold a button to make the game play itself. Still is efficent and less boring of doing defenses over and over again, i like my mesa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monolake Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 (edited) Still is efficent and less boring of doing defenses over and over again, i like my mesa "just let me win" button would be even more efficient, doesn't mean it's any interesting to play Now imagine you'd win because you as a player played well, did the right things at the right time - that is gameplay that is fun and makes you feel great about winning. Edited February 8, 2015 by Monolake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaosyn Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 I'm so glad I solo,I'd hate to be stuck playing with crybabies that whine if you use a skill as if it isn't helping anyone.. Also it is funny to see how this particular form of whining has evolved....Any frame with a 4th skill that targets more than one enemy has had this hate at one point.... I find myself wondering if it's legitimate resentment towards that skill or if it's just because the whiner isn't the center of attention.. I mean who gets kills isn't important unless they're far away....You aren't doing the mission to compete with your group,you're doing it for exp,affinity,and actual reward items... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrKage Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 (edited) "just let me win" button would be even more efficient, doesn't mean it's any interesting to play Now imagine you'd win because you as a player played well, did the right things at the right time - that is gameplay that is fun and makes you feel great about winning. im sorry but doing the same things over and over again dat "feel" disapper after sometime, and u start looking for faster ways to complete dat mission get ur stuff and get out Edited February 8, 2015 by MrKage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreadwire Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Happened to me many time. Ask to not spamming 4 and the worst was told like this " I dont want some idiot spamming peacemaker" and apparently those comes out from a high mastery player. I have no problems with others. But everytime a high rank player comes they always take charge like an a hole. But I got remedy for that. 1 :Just shut up and ignore chat bar. 2 :don't spam anything and just do whatever you can and leave on next 5 / 10/ 15 wave. Usually defence mission. Mesa job is to bring peace. If people don't want that. Just leave. And apparently high mastery ranker hate you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faustias Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 And apparently high mastery ranker hate you. probably bitter not getting the Systems part. Anyway... Mesa, or not, I don't mind spammers at all... except for those far away in survivals. I mean come on, I'm missing affinity that way. Probably the only reason I don't want #4 spammers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cx-dave Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Happened to me many time. Ask to not spamming 4 and the worst was told like this " I dont want some idiot spamming peacemaker" and apparently those comes out from a high mastery player. I have no problems with others. But everytime a high rank player comes they always take charge like an a hole. But I got remedy for that. 1 :Just shut up and ignore chat bar. 2 :don't spam anything and just do whatever you can and leave on next 5 / 10/ 15 wave. Usually defence mission. Mesa job is to bring peace. If people don't want that. Just leave. And apparently high mastery ranker hate you. Hate...is a big word to use here. I can tell you why I don't like her though in high enemy level content. She brings nothing to the team. Once the enemies reach a certain level she just keeps going down and barely is able to kill anything. Instead of helping to progress she becomes a burden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xaturas Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Hate...is a big word to use here. I can tell you why I don't like her though in high enemy level content. She brings nothing to the team. Once the enemies reach a certain level she just keeps going down and barely is able to kill anything. Instead of helping to progress she becomes a burden. Messa Shatter shield makes her pretty much immortal in high end game content. Unless random bombard hit someone near her then the blast kills her because DE is cool at making things work properly. You can have a decent build where you can both do peacmaker and Shatter shield that has about 20-30sec of shield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreadwire Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Messa Shatter shield makes her pretty much immortal in high end game content. Unless random bombard hit someone near her then the blast kills her because DE is cool at making things work properly. You can have a decent build where you can both do peacmaker and Shatter shield that has about 20-30sec of shield. as a mesa user I totally agree. She has a great survivability. Mod her properly and she the one who be saving your a$$. Asking any frame not to use his ultimate is like asking for him/her to leave the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VoidNomade Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 It´s kinda funny that in essence people that arguing pro spam are saying "it makes the mission faster/ the job done" ergo you get your reward faster. So people don´t actually like to playing the game. They only wanting to see the reward screen. Isn´t that the core problem here? That the game doesn´t seem to be fun enough itself so that people argue that standing still 20 minutes and pressing one button is considered "more fun" than actually playing the game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrKage Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 It´s kinda funny that in essence people that arguing pro spam are saying "it makes the mission faster/ the job done" ergo you get your reward faster. So people don´t actually like to playing the game. They only wanting to see the reward screen. Isn´t that the core problem here? That the game doesn´t seem to be fun enough itself so that people argue that standing still 20 minutes and pressing one button is considered "more fun" than actually playing the game? All thanks to RNGod ,if i dint have to repeat so much 1 mission to get 1 thing i would try to enjoy more instead of looking to end it quickly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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