Naed Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 And yet again, used your fine post to help guide someone through the "wonders" of the rng :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyrus106 Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Thank you for confirming exactly why this thread needs to be a sticky. OP: Thank you for giving the helpfull players a thread to point at for those that dont understand the math but want to know about it. Topic: RE: why DE hasnt shown/or are more open with the droprate system: Simple answer. The system as it is right now is actually fairly decent/good when you compare it to many other RNG systems. This is said both from a closed beta and as a open beta player (very good friend joined as OB player). The "problem" that many seem to "struggle" with is that as Notso mentions, people overvalue the number of runs they are doing. Also, what are you (the player) going to be doing the moment you have everything maxed? nothing? yes. Hence, it could quite easily be debated that its in DE's interest to keep the droprates as "random" and as low as "possible" YES, i know that the above might seem like "logic" to many people, but for some, its like magic. Each player(person) has a different understanding of "how" rng "should" work. Sadly, complaining comes before understanding in the dictionary of the internet. Complex answer: that is a topic for a different thread (with built in 24/7 moderation) Hrm....this topic seems to highly disagree with your statement about mod rarity: https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/33935-suggestion-please-look-into-the-drop-rates-of-certain-mods/page-2?hl=cyrus106#entry315107 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naed Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 (edited) Hrm....this topic seems to highly disagree with your statement about mod rarity: https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/33935-suggestion-please-look-into-the-drop-rates-of-certain-mods/page-2?hl=cyrus106#entry315107 hmm, without reading all posts in that thread you linked me into the middle of... i honestly cant "know" the "point" of why you are linking me... So please clarify with another link or explain it, because right now, i dont see it :) Edit: Hmm, by looking at the OP of that thread https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/33935-suggestion-please-look-into-the-drop-rates-of-certain-mods/#entry311179 It would seem that because you had the experience of "xyz" drop, you claim/think that a post that talks about how statistics in general "can" work, isnt relevant to the playerbase ? sorry, i really need you to explain to me why that is? Edited May 21, 2013 by Naed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notso Posted May 21, 2013 Author Share Posted May 21, 2013 And yet again, used your fine post to help guide someone through the "wonders" of the rng :) Unfortunately while the RNG is certainly "wondrous" it is definitely not wonderful :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix86 Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 So long story short is: Keep farming, nothing wrong, it's all about chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyrus106 Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 So long story short is: Keep farming, nothing wrong, it's all about chances. yes, because 400 hours without finding a certain mod is totally fun and "Nothing is wrong" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notso Posted May 21, 2013 Author Share Posted May 21, 2013 yes, because 400 hours without finding a certain mod is totally fun and "Nothing is wrong" I highly doubt you've actually done 400 hours of farming for a single mod, although I don't disagree that a few unlucky people are having to do far to much of it just because of the way probability works. I made suggestions on how to improve the current system here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-HAKUNA-YOUR-TATAS- Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 (edited) yes, because 400 hours without finding a certain mod is totally fun and "Nothing is wrong" 400 hours in all the same places may not work well with the "random" nature of the drop system. Playing outside of your routine may help you get the mods you're looking for. Granted, I'm not telling you to expect thunderbolt or multishots on Mercury, but follow the guidelines on which faction drop what, but play everywhere. While I get most of my mods from a half a dozen places in this game, the best ones were from random alert missions (the 2000cr ones, hint, hint...) I hope you find what you're looking for. If not pray to the RNG God. It does no harm and it's worked for me: https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/44132-your-rng-god-prayers-here/#entry437305 I'm sure in those 400 hours you have stuff that I don't. Edited May 21, 2013 by sushidubya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyrus106 Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 (edited) 400 hours in all the same places may not work well with the "random" nature of the drop system. Playing outside of your routine may help you get the mods you're looking for. Granted, I'm not telling you to expect thunderbolt or multishots on Mercury, but follow the guidelines on which faction drop what, but play everywhere. While I get most of my mods from a half a dozen places in this game, the best ones were from random alert missions (the 2000cr ones, hint, hint...) I hope you find what you're looking for. If not pray to the RNG God. It does no harm and it's worked for me: https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/44132-your-rng-god-prayers-here/#entry437305 I'm sure in those 400 hours you have stuff that I don't. buddy, I've farmed in various locations, I have not just played the same mission over and over But I appreciate your advice. I will look into that topic, many thanks Edited May 21, 2013 by cyrus106 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-HAKUNA-YOUR-TATAS- Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 (edited) buddy, I've farmed in various locations, I have not just played the same mission over and over But I appreciate your advice. I will look into that topic, many thanks Sorry if it seems the reply was directed at you. It wasn't particularly. I've seen quite a few "150, 200, 400 hours and no multishot, etc" posts. While I may have been lucky... (not really because I've only received the good stuff in the past 30 hours out of 150 I have logged?) There were days where I went into some 2000cr no ? alerts, just because I was bored and I was pleasantly surprised with a rare 5 core or mod. Kiste, Xini have been dropping 1 rare mod/core a night for me and a bunch of blunderbuss, flechette, ability, vitality mods. Whereas before it was raining cores. Edited May 22, 2013 by sushidubya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naed Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Sticky ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notso Posted May 22, 2013 Author Share Posted May 22, 2013 Bumping this again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naed Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 and it strikes again! https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/48660-how-to-hunt-for-rare-mods-my-theory/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notso Posted May 27, 2013 Author Share Posted May 27, 2013 Bumping Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notso Posted May 28, 2013 Author Share Posted May 28, 2013 Updated for Void missions relevance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lumireaver Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 (edited) Endorsing sticky, and if possible, requesting drop rates from DE for no other reason than because I like data crunching. Edited May 28, 2013 by Lumireaver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notso Posted May 28, 2013 Author Share Posted May 28, 2013 Endorsing sticky, and if possible, requesting drop rates from DE for no other reason that because I like data crunching. Another madman like me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X3Evanescence Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 Argh my mind! No offence. Haha finally..... Hopefully less people complaining about RNG... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X3Evanescence Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 Bump for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisguidedGT Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 Apply the same logic to mods for a moment. When you are just starting out, and don't have any of the mods, things that are useful for you rain from the sky. As your collection grows larger, the chances that a mod that drops is one that you don't have becomes less and less, just like with the blueprints. Throw in the wackiness that results from looking at isolated bits of random variation (like how I have 4-5 Flow mods when my best friend has none) and you can understand why people become frustrated sometimes. It doesn't really make sense to try and farm a particular mod in this game because the individual percentages are so small. Just play the game and it will happen eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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