OverlordMcGeek Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 By upgraded sniper/shotgun I mean a vandal, wraith, or even prime sniper. Not a completely new weapon. Won't it be a cheap move to do what we have been asking them to for snipers/shotguns for a singular release? I really hope that if any type of upgrade is released it is with an overall improvement to the reasonable sniper/shotgun "buff" we have asked for repeatedly. What are your feelings on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noveltyhero Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 Yes, I 100% without doubt expect a full buff across the board for snipers/shotguns if they release a new one. I don't care if it is an alternate variant, it would be disappointing to just see one weapon standing out or even worse being mastery fodder (which has been a constant issue around warframe). I just want the Vectis to be great :O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverlordMcGeek Posted June 7, 2015 Author Share Posted June 7, 2015 Yeah, wording. Makes it that a thread gets closed or not. Vectis is my love... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kthal Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 I have to point out, they just released the Anku Scythe, another class of weapons that need a buff across the board. For some strange reason, the Anku, part of a set with two starter weapons, has higher stats across the board, damage, speed, and crits, than the Prime and Stalker weapons in the same category. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverlordMcGeek Posted June 7, 2015 Author Share Posted June 7, 2015 (edited) Ahh yes the Anku. Thread has become pointless, they have already delivered a low blow... Still, at least there is a discussion about it. Edited June 7, 2015 by OverlordMcGeek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grulos Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 (edited) Yes, I 100% without doubt expect a full buff across the board for snipers/shotguns if they release a new one. I don't care if it is an alternate variant, it would be disappointing to just see one weapon standing out or even worse being mastery fodder (which has been a constant issue around warframe). I just want the Vectis to be great :O Pffff, its DE, the new gun will S#&$ on all others and the old ones won't be buffed. Ahh yes the Anku. Thread has become pointless, they have already delivered a low blow... Still, at least there is a discussion about it. They did it before, with the Boltor Prime. Or the Brakk. Edited June 7, 2015 by Grulos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverlordMcGeek Posted June 7, 2015 Author Share Posted June 7, 2015 They did it before, with the Boltor Prime. Or the Brakk. How? Did they have horrid mechanics that were dealt with with a buff or rework? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grulos Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 How? Did they have horrid mechanics that were dealt with with a buff or rework? No, the weapons were/are so ridiculously OP that every other weapon is simply not viable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnKable Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 (edited) Sniper must have decent rate of fire, high crits (capping at least very colse to 100% with vital sense) and greater heashot multiplier. I know heashot crit already multiplies. Sniper should pay skill at landing heashots. Can you land 4 heashots in a second? Good for you, just killed 4 enemies. You cant? Well then youre doing meh damage on bodyshots with some punchthrough Edited June 8, 2015 by (PS4)IIIDevoidIII Cleaning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trst Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 The shotgun/sniper buffs will come eventually. Note: I may be off about exaclty how DE runs things but from what I had noticed from previous Dev Streams I'm pretty sure this is close to it. DE has priorities. A (very likely literal) list of work that needs to get done organized from most to least important. Things are also done in teams. And the actions of one team most often do not reflect the status or priorities of another. Basically: we will get buffs to shotguns and snipers but depending on how much of a priority it is to DE it may take quite some time. And just because players have asked for such a thing does not mean anything when we get new weapons within these weapon classes. The Anku for example. Players have called it blatant power creep but it really isin't. It's simply that the team that designs and makes weapons is not the team that balances stats. Their design teams are there to make and design new art-based assets (any new models/textures basically) so even when other teams have other priorities we still have people making 'new' things. We'll get out buffs and we'll likely get new shotguns/snipers without the issues of older ones before then. Simply because different people within their offices have different jobs and priorities to work on. Not because they want us to only go after new weapons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twilight053 Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 (edited) Vectis is one of the best weapons on the board that actually require some skillful play. I don't see why people always say that Soma/Boltor is better. Unless Nullifiers. Edited June 8, 2015 by Twilight053 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trst Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Vectis is one of the best weapons on the board that actually require some skillful play. I don't see why people always say that Soma/Boltor is better. Unless Nullifiers. Because of how many enemies you can kill within the same ammount of time. Unfortunantly a Vectis will never be able to kill as many enemies as a Boltor/Soma can. However if the argument was how many heavy units you could kill with them then things like the Vectis are far more likely to come out on top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XaelathRavenstorm Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Sniper/Shotgun changes that we all need : https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/444368-i-think-its-time-for-another-weapon-balance-to-keep-weapon-choices-diverseneeded-changes-inside/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)ElZilcho Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 (edited) No, the weapons were/are so ridiculously OP that every other weapon is simply not viable. This is a really stupid way to look at things. One thing being good doesn't make other things worse, and there's more to the game than DPS calculations. Edited June 8, 2015 by (PS4)ElZilcho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverlordMcGeek Posted June 8, 2015 Author Share Posted June 8, 2015 No, the weapons were/are so ridiculously OP that every other weapon is simply not viable. Then how does that argument hold in this thread? This is about fixing mechanics and weapon viability as seen by community data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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