C-Core Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 (edited) We've all looked at the trading chat, and to be honest, it isn't a pretty sight. It's just full of endless lines of spam with people desperate to sell all their things, and when you want to sell only a few things, it gets shoved off by a person who's spammed the visible interface. It's extremely annoying as you then have to wait another two minutes to type a thing in that nobody even saw, it's even annoying when trying to buy things too. I'm sure you've all experienced it. Something needs to be done. Edit: It would be good if there were designated chats for buying and selling certain items Edited August 9, 2015 by Chris1221W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scandroid Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 just start ignoring people who keep spamming such messages over and over every 2 minutes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elfkinn Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 A auction system would kill the game, but making sub buying, selling, and trading sections would be extremly useful, also a tip for trading dont bother posting a selling message unless you have something of value to sell just look for people typing wtb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C-Core Posted August 9, 2015 Author Share Posted August 9, 2015 A auction system would kill the game, but making sub buying, selling, and trading sections would be extremly useful, also a tip for trading dont bother posting a selling message unless you have something of value to sell just look for people typing wtb. Oh I have useful parts, but my messages always get shoved off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hustler-One Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 Auction house, all we need, I don't know how it would kill the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DxAdder Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 there are a few websites that offer trading, there way better than the trade channel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Askell91 Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 Auction house, all we need, I don't know how it would kill the game. Check out Diablo 3... IT WILL kill the game.. i know sadly. There should be another way what i hope DE will find in the future. Oh I have useful parts, but my messages always get shoved off. I'm a little interested.. what are those "usefull parts" what get's showed off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heatnix. Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 I don't believe we need an auction house, but what people could do is take advantage of the forum resources and use the trading board a lot more. I have a primed pistol gambit. It was IMPOSSIBLE to sell on the trading chat. I'd get buyers but no one would have creds to pay the tax cause they've never bought primed mods before. I posted that I needed to sell one and within the hour someone contacted me to buy it, taxes weren't a problem and all lived happily-- cept I have another one but I'm saving it for later. See, it would work if more people used the boards to list things and look for things. It would be almost exactly like an Auction House without the whole economy murdering effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellfire616 Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 We've all looked at the trading chat, and to be honest, it isn't a pretty sight. It's just full of endless lines of spam with people desperate to sell all their things, and when you want to sell only a few things, it gets shoved off by a person who's spammed the visible interface. It's extremely annoying as you then have to wait another two minutes to type a thing in that nobody even saw, it's even annoying when trying to buy things too. I'm sure you've all experienced it. Something needs to be done. Edit: It would be good if there were designated chats for buying and selling certain items well chat windows are chaotic as they are anyways, so more windows would just lower the overview. ALSO: an auction house would be a good idea, if it had a trade function enabled where you can trade items for others. (so platinum wouldnt be needed for everything) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerZeyCJ Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 Honestly, they just need to put a character/line limit for chat and that will stop the spam text blocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChameleonDude Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 Auction house would just drive all non-super-rare items down to next to no value, as everyone would just list them at the lowest price; compared to the small portion of the playerbase on the trade chat. I'd suggest a relay-like area as a player market. Some sort of shady space bazaar where people can set up stalls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)NachoZissou Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 Yeah it's not great when your item gets razzed off the screen within seconds of posting but that's going to happen when 90% WTS and 10% WTB. I wouldn't say I never have problems selling, as for example I couldn't sell my Burston set if my goddamn life depended on it, but with a little persistence you can sell virtually anything. Just not a Burston set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_JustSomeone_ Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 (edited) Check out Diablo 3... IT WILL kill the game.. i know sadly. There should be another way what i hope DE will find in the future. I'm a little interested.. what are those "usefull parts" what get's showed off? THIS isn't DIABLO 3.. Warframe's devs arent the same as DIABLO 3 dont compare please. Just because 1 company failed at it doesnt mean DE will too.... Auction house would just drive all non-super-rare items down to next to no value, as everyone would just list them at the lowest price; compared to the small portion of the playerbase on the trade chat. I'd suggest a relay-like area as a player market. Some sort of shady space bazaar where people can set up stalls. This will sure cause masive lag for some xD Edited August 9, 2015 by xDesconocidox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S3EK3R Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 The biggest problem are the ppl who write a novel about useless stuff they want to sell. THIS isn't DIABLO 3.. Warframe's devs arent the same as DIABLO 3 dont compare please. Just because 1 company failed at it doesnt mean DE will too.... Do you know what's going to happen? WTS Item X for 50p WTS Item X for 49p WTS Item X for 48p And so on until we reach the lowest price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_JustSomeone_ Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 (edited) Why so much drama about prices?......... prices are still droping in chat anyways...... Reason why prices stay put for a while is because of those that control prices on trading chat. Anyways you just confirmed that Edited August 9, 2015 by xDesconocidox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChameleonDude Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 (edited) THIS isn't DIABLO 3.. Warframe's devs arent the same as DIABLO 3 dont compare please. Just because 1 company failed at it doesnt mean DE will too.... This will sure cause masive lag for some xD It doesn't matter who the devs are, it matters who the players are. And let's face it - we're idiots. The market will be flooded will parts, mods, etc from people who normally wouldn't trade, but will put something on the auction house because it's a couple of clicks and no hassle. Prices will drop to undercut the previous, they'll plummet. All but the rarest of items will be completely worthless. An auction house is not the way. As for the lag, make it have multiple floors, each a seperate instance with only so many stalls on each. A console, like the one we sell parts for ducats at the relays, could be present to help us locate stalls with particular items/offers and an option to travel to that floor. It's by no means a flawless system or a fully fleshed out suggestion, but it's not going to destroy the economy like an auction house would. EDIT: Why so much drama about prices?......... prices are still droping in chat anyways...... Reason why prices stay put for a while is because of those that control prices on trading chat. Anyways you just confirmed that Instead of say 20 people trying to sell item X in the trade chat, there will be thousands upon thousands dumping them on an auction house system. I really don't think you understand what that differende in numbers means. Previously, these people wouldn't have even traded, it's essentially increasing the supply of items exponentially. And once every item hits rock bottom, the economy dies. Edited August 9, 2015 by ChameleonDude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingTaro Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 (edited) We need an auction house. Why do people keep bringing up that one game that failed to implement the auction house? What about the games that managed to give us a proper auction house like Cabal, C9, GW2, Dragon Nest, ... ? Yes, let's just pretend that an auction house is not possible because Diablo 3 says so... Edited August 9, 2015 by KingTaro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RugerMK1 Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 Trade chat is a wonderful matrix-like system of ads designed for your viewing pleasure! If you find the text flies by too fast, you may not be doing enough drugs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hustler-One Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 Check out Diablo 3... IT WILL kill the game.. i know sadly. There should be another way what i hope DE will find in the future. What happened to D3 ? I never played Diablo, sorry... We need an auction house. Why do people keep bringing up that one game that failed to implement the auction house? What about the games that managed to give us a proper auction house like Cabal, C9, GW2, Dragon Nest, ... ? Yes, let's just pretend that an auction house is not possible because Diablo 3 says so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingTaro Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 Instead of say 20 people trying to sell item X in the trade chat, there will be thousands upon thousands dumping them on an auction house system. I really don't think you understand what that differende in numbers means. Previously, these people wouldn't have even traded, it's essentially increasing the supply of items exponentially. And once every item hits rock bottom, the economy dies. There is a limit of how many items one can auction (like 8 items at a time). And most people won't be wasting those 8 slot for items they're sure of won't sell. Not to mention there is a time limit on the items you auction and a fee you need to pay each time you want to sell something. Assume that the fee is 5% of the platinum price that we set, with 1p being the minimum fee. Meaning, if we auction an item for 100p, we'll have to pay up 5p and if we auction it for 2p we'll have to pay up 1p (the minimum), whether we manage to sell it or not. The time limit prevents the auction house being flooded with items that won't sell. If the time limit is 24h and you have like 10k people playing every day, you'll only have a max of 80k items in the auction at any given time. These limit are there to prevent what you described: Market getting flooded with useless items. There will still be useless items sold by new players, but they'll quickly learn they're not making any profit with all these fees and time limits. With proper limits, the auction house can be kept clean and reasonable. I mean no one wants to risk selling at 3p when the fee is 1p. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ov3rd0se Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 This should be in Feedback, but yes I agree that Trade chat is nearly impossible to use. Does anyone even trade anymore or is it all just gouge for plat now? I always end up wasting my time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arenzo4 Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 Check out Diablo 3... IT WILL kill the game.. i know sadly. There should be another way what i hope DE will find in the future. I'm a little interested.. what are those "usefull parts" what get's showed off? they removed the AH from D3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunivar Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 The only time real money gets involved is the actual creation of Plat into the system (with the exception of DE giving away plat). Past that, trade with plat becomes solely in terms of Warframe. Diablo III did the weird thing of allowing someone to make actual money off of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hustler-One Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 they removed the AH from D3 Why did they remove it actually ? The only time real money gets involved is the actual creation of Plat into the system (with the exception of DE giving away plat). Past that, trade with plat becomes solely in terms of Warframe. Diablo III did the weird thing of allowing someone to make actual money off of it. Really ? Biggest mistake possible... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertgk2017 Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 Um an auction house would be better than the horror that I'd trade chat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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