RagingGrizzly Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 (edited) As a Hek lover myself, I would've loved to see this happen. The "Skana" Aug can be used on the prisma skana, why not the Vaykor Hek? Anyway, I'm extremely happy with the other changes to our new Hek. THNX DE FOR BAEKOR HEK! Edited September 2, 2015 by PUR3K1LL3R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesseract7777 Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 It has innate syndicate effect already... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RagingGrizzly Posted September 2, 2015 Author Share Posted September 2, 2015 (edited) It has innate syndicate effect already... I wasn't saying that for its syndicate effect, I was talking about the 200% multishot... Edited September 2, 2015 by PUR3K1LL3R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordOfScrugging Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 I would've loved to see this happen, but whatever. make an already powerful weapon more insane. seems legit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Quo_Tee Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 I wasn't saying that for its syndicate effect, I was talking about the 200% multishot...That would probably make the Vaykor Hek gamebreaking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RagingGrizzly Posted September 2, 2015 Author Share Posted September 2, 2015 make an already powerful weapon more insane. seems legit They have identical damage, I don't the problem here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJxt Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 They have identical damage, I don't the problem here. 10% base crit vs 25% base crit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liminal Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 make an already powerful weapon more insane. seems legit Just like every other good syndicate weapon. The problem is that it's the only syndicate weapon that's worse than its standard counterpart. They should have never picked the Hek, it already had an augment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoodDarius Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 I don't know, it has 8 magazine and 3.00 of fire rate, plus it can be build for crits I wouldn't say it's not worth it that easily. You pretty much trade scattered justice for Primed ravage and 47,5 crit chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liminal Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 I don't know, it has 8 magazine and 3.00 of fire rate, plus it can be build for crits I wouldn't say it's not worth it that easily. You pretty much trade scattered justice for Primed ravage and 47,5 crit chance. In order to get x2 damage it needs a mod slot and it will get it less than half the time opposed to all the time like 200% MS. In order to get x3.2 damage less than half the time it needs 2 slots. And the fire rate is higher, but not really notorious for a weapon like the hek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-InV-igo95862 Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 You can put Bright Purity on Prime Scana and Prisma Scana. I don't see why Scattered Justice should not work on Vaykor Hek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barkano Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 man why is hek the syndicate weapon :/ makes no sense to me we already have the normal one fully formaed with the augments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesseract7777 Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 You can put Bright Purity on Prime Scana and Prisma Scana. I don't see why Scattered Justice should not work on Vaykor Hek. Because two syndicate proc(s) chances on the same weapon. I think it would make the code go completely wonky. And I don't think they could fix that without changing the mod itself. The did make the weapon better in other ways. But I thought the point of syndicate weapons wasn't necessarily to always be a direct upgrade anyway. Sometimes they are just meant to fill a different role. They gave this version really good crit capability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoodDarius Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 In order to get x2 damage it needs a mod slot and it will get it less than half the time opposed to all the time like 200% MS. In order to get x3.2 damage less than half the time it needs 2 slots. And the fire rate is higher, but not really notorious for a weapon like the hek. Well, with 15,4 pellets shoot with Hell's chamber and primed ravage that give 4,2 damage multiplier, are you sure is that bad? At least 7 bullets can deal 2205,42 damage them alone. Plus, more pellets is not useful, it means you have to hit with them all to be sure do deal all the damage possible and I can assure you most of the time you don't. I think we have simply trade quantity over quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illamonati Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 So is it possible to put syndicate mod on it or no? Can someone Illuminati confirmed this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesseract7777 Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 So is it possible to put syndicate mod on it or no? Can someone Illuminati confirmed this? Can't. So said [DE]Rebecca. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illamonati Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Can't. So said [DE]Rebecca. Well its a bad version of the Hek then... that mod is literally what makes the Hek good^^ that and the shotgun buff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesseract7777 Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Well its a bad version of the Hek then... that mod is literally what makes the Hek good^^ that and the shotgun buff. They did give it a lot more crit chance. I'm not sure it's supposed to be better, or just be a different "version". This is the crit capable version I suppose. Some of the syndicates got an even worse deal in my opinion though. For example, Cephalon Suda people (like myself) are not a happy lot right now). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)inuyasha279 Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Because two syndicate proc(s) chances on the same weapon. I think it would make the code go completely wonky. And I don't think they could fix that without changing the mod itself. The did make the weapon better in other ways. But I thought the point of syndicate weapons wasn't necessarily to always be a direct upgrade anyway. Sometimes they are just meant to fill a different role. They gave this version really good crit capability. it's the same proc though. Leveling up an aug, the proc isn't a full number wouldn't it just work better than the normal version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liminal Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 (edited) Well, with 15,4 pellets shoot with Hell's chamber and primed ravage that give 4,2 damage multiplier, are you sure is that bad? At least 7 bullets can deal 2205,42 damage them alone. Plus, more pellets is not useful, it means you have to hit with them all to be sure do deal all the damage possible and I can assure you most of the time you don't. I think we have simply trade quantity over quality. The Hek's spread is tight enough and MS doesn't increase it, so even if you miss some the effect will be the same with the Vaykor. Also, I had forgotten Primed Ravage existed. This makes me even more annoyed: one primed mod required to make shotguns decent was enough, now the new gun requires yet another Prime. EDIT: okay someone did some math on another thread, with Primed Ravage they end up even in damage. So it probably takes one more forma, a billion cores and an extra slot to get a bigger clip. Edited September 2, 2015 by The_Doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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