Storm-Surge Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Hi everyone! Specs; i5 4690k GTX 970 8gb ram I've been playing warframe for a good while and I upgraded my pc maybe 9 months ago and it runs everything great BUT warframe. I get drops A LOT in void. My max fps in game without any enemies is 100fps My max fps under HEAVY LOAD with enemies everywhere can drop even towards less than 30. I have unparked my cores What do I do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[DE]Grzegorz Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 a) Clean your PC, physically remove dust from the inside. b) Update your drivers. c) Kill enemies efficiently, so there's never "a lot of them" around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightdragon64 Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 (edited) I think your specs are fine... hmm... try updating your drivers, and go ahead and see if there is dust inside your PC (dust inside the pc increases heat and reduces air flow thus causing low performance) EDIT: ninjae'd Edited October 10, 2015 by lightdragon64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[DE]Grzegorz Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 try updating your drivers, and go ahead and see if there is dust inside your PC (dust inside the pc increases heat and reduces air flow thus causing low performance) More like, makes any cooling solution less efficient, causing thermal throttling while stressed components desperately try not to fry themselves. Just FYI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm-Surge Posted October 11, 2015 Author Share Posted October 11, 2015 Inside is dust free, drivers are up to date and still no change :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[DE]Grzegorz Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Does this issue persist in other games? What are your temperatures when this issue occurs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crafturtoemc Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 I have better specs than all of this but, your comp should be able to max wf no problem. Go around your computer performance modes and nvidia control panel too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm-Surge Posted October 11, 2015 Author Share Posted October 11, 2015 Im presently checking the temps what do you mean by performance modes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[DE]Grzegorz Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Navigate to Control Panel/Hardware and sound/Energy management, change your power plan to high efficiency. There's also a similar option in Nvidia CP, though that's Performance-Quality slider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm-Surge Posted October 11, 2015 Author Share Posted October 11, 2015 Max temp was 60C and lowest was 55(in void) Issue does not persist in titles such as battlefield 4, battlefield 3 etc(constant 90-100FPS) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pythadragon Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 (edited) monitor your cpu and gpu usage, esp during these slowdowns. see if that reveals a bottleneck in certain situations. make sure that multi threaded rendering is on in the game launcher my i5 3570k/gtx 660 gets 160ish normal, 70ish in extreme scenarios. something is definitely strange with your situation. Edited October 11, 2015 by Pythadragon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[DE]Grzegorz Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 If the issue doesn't persist in other games, you can try wiping your game settings, or both game and every file related to it and perform a clean install. Or try file validation and defragmentation from the launcher, not Steam if you use it, as validation will most likely result in downloading some really old build of Warframe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm-Surge Posted October 11, 2015 Author Share Posted October 11, 2015 If the issue doesn't persist in other games, you can try wiping your game settings, or both game and every file related to it and perform a clean install. Or try file validation and defragmentation from the launcher, not Steam if you use it, as validation will most likely result in downloading some really old build of Warframe. I will try this. This may seem like a good option, thanks. I'll try running a survival and monitor the temps in the scenarios where it drops VERY low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm-Surge Posted October 12, 2015 Author Share Posted October 12, 2015 I seem to be getting 100+fps min but may drop to 80-90 in very heavy situations after optimizing it through the launcher and defragging. This is normal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[DE]Grzegorz Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Performance drops are to be expected when something is actually happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazerath Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 I seem to be getting 100+fps min but may drop to 80-90 in very heavy situations after optimizing it through the launcher and defragging. This is normal? It depends. If you are running lots of graphics settings on high or max, then yes, it is normal. But if you are running the game with low graphics settings then you should not be experiencing FPS drops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[DE]Grzegorz Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 It depends. If you are running lots of graphics settings on high or max, then yes, it is normal. But if you are running the game with low graphics settings then you should not be experiencing FPS drops. Most framerate drops in Warframe are bound to CPU bottleneck, not GPU. At least on my end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazerath Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Most framerate drops in Warframe are bound to CPU bottleneck, not GPU. At least on my end. I wasn't talking about that. I meant the more video options you have on 'max', the more resource demanding the game becomes. So it is not unusual to experience FPS drops when running the game at maximum settings. However, if Storm-Surge is getting FPS drops with all settings on 'low' then there is something wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm-Surge Posted October 13, 2015 Author Share Posted October 13, 2015 I'll test it on low, I do remember getting the same performance on low but i'll see. I would assume a 970 shouldn't be bottlenecking a 4690k or performing bad on a 970. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazerath Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 I'll test it on low, I do remember getting the same performance on low but i'll see. I would assume a 970 shouldn't be bottlenecking a 4690k or performing bad on a 970. The 970 is fine, I use one myself. The problem is that Warframe's engine does some pretty weird things. For example, if I run the game with V-sync off and no FPS limit, everything is smooth at high settings and 120+ FPS. However, if I turn V-sync on, the game locks itself to 60 FPS (which is fine), but I sometimes get this bizarre stuttering with no FPS drops whatsoever (which is not fine). To make matters even more interesting, the stuttering I get happens while my CPU usage is under 50% and my GPU usage is under 30%. So the game doesn't seem to be incredibly well optimized, or at least not optimized to run with V-sync on. Still, keep in mind this problem is not the same you are getting. You mentioned earlier you're getting actual FPS drop. That's different from stuttering at constant 60 FPS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm-Surge Posted October 14, 2015 Author Share Posted October 14, 2015 Well i ran it at low and got the same fps Weird. Im not getting 100 fps anymore in void i get 60 or less now wtf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazerath Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Well i ran it at low and got the same fps Weird. Im not getting 100 fps anymore in void i get 60 or less now wtf See what I mean with Warframe's engine doing weird stuff? I don't know what's causing your FPS drops and I don't know what causes my stuttering problems. It seems to be related to Warframe not taking advantage of all the resources available, but I don't know for sure. I'm gonna test some different video options over here and see if everything is behaving as it should. Try messing with V-sync if you feel like it. Maybe it will change something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[DE]Grzegorz Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Well, at this point I can only suggest unparking your cores or performing a clean system install, I don't have enough data to work with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm-Surge Posted October 15, 2015 Author Share Posted October 15, 2015 I've unparked my cores before this. Data-wise, what data can I provide you with? I'll try to get what you need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[DE]Grzegorz Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 We'd need to pinpoint the cause of the issue first, because we just assumed it's GPU's fault. Though sad thing is that Warframe doesn't have a widely available performance graph that would show how stressed components are. You'd need to find some program that would do so in the background and dump a log after issue occurs and see which component caused that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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