(XBOX)General D1rtbag Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 Well one thing I don't get. We always kill a boss and you see them dying yet they show up still alive and well like nothing happened. Alad and a or being good examples. Especially Vor since he's involved in two bosses (I'm excluding Corrupted) and with Vors Prize you kill him dead and he pops of his waist in a glorious explosion and in Phobos he's alive and well. They have no explain nation for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian_Legion Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 the only two that i could see siding with us is tyl regor(or maybe i just like the guy) and sargus ruk(if his response during the gradvius delemma is to be believed. Moldy alad needs to burn he tortured tenno for profit, he killed the original mesa and used her warframe like a puppet. Alad v is a monster and i wil not work with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceDragonofAmber Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 Well one thing I don't get. We always kill a boss and you see them dying yet they show up still alive and well like nothing happened. Alad and a or being good examples. Especially Vor since he's involved in two bosses (I'm excluding Corrupted) and with Vors Prize you kill him dead and he pops of his waist in a glorious explosion and in Phobos he's alive and well. They have no explain nation for that. Alad V surviving assassinations is canon in the story on both accounts, normal and infested. For Vor that Phobos mission is very much just a place holder that I wouldn't consider canon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_Redwire Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 (edited) WARNING: Incoming rampant speculation. There was a theory floating around a while back about the Steel Meridian and Gen. Sargus Ruk that was almost supportive of such an idea. Basically, given the locations and timing of things, it appeared as if Ruk and the leader of the Steel Meridian might have some sort of part/current connection. Some even suggested they might be father and daughter (this doesn't really work canonically because Grineer are clones, but we also know some clones are special, such as all these notable characters). They share many similar character traits, for as much info we have on them to date. The reason this came about was because originally the Steel Meridian was named the Oracles of Saturn during early development of the syndicates. Since then, we have not been told otherwise as to the origin of the Steel Meridian (or much to the effect of any of the other syndicates for that matter), and so it is not out of the realm of reason to believe that the Steel Meridian was previously or is now stationed somewhere near Saturn. Saturn - the planet that Sargus Ruk just so happens to be the boss of. Similarly, there is a radio transmission in the liset that heralds about Sargus's conquering of the rebels on Saturn. If the Steel Meridian does have some sort of connection to Saturn, that would mean they were the rebels discussed in the radio transmission. According to the transmission, they were all to be executed, but if the above is true, that would not explain why the Steel Meridian still exists as a notable faction. Many think the reason for this is that IF Sargus and the Steel Meridian leader have some sort of unknown relationship, such as being father/daughter, that the 'rebels' aka the Steel Meridian, were actually sojourned by Ruk instead of executed. Basically daddy Ruk stages a cover up to try and save his alleged kid despite being seemingly loyal to the Queens (although he has deviated from their directives on occasion - possible evidence?). And so as fuel of this long-winded and shaky theory, it would be interesting to see Sargus turn over to the 'good' side to fight along side his alleged daughter who is the leader of the most noble of syndicates, and by association, along side the Tenno. I should not I'm even in Steel Meridian and I think they are the most noble cause. Edited November 2, 2015 by DJ_Redwire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VocalMagic Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 I've always wondered how things would turn out if we somehow convinced a Major figure to join our cause. Be interesting to have Vay Hek send us on spy missions to gather data on the Twin queens. Also I'd love to have him say "DID YOU REALLY THINK IT WOULD BE THIS EASY?" if we got detected. Anyways how would you feel if something like this were to happen. Or, if you complete a mission for Hek, He says "I DIDN'T THINK IT WOULD BE THIS EASY." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmptyDevil Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 WARNING: Incoming rampant speculation. There was a theory floating around a while back about the Steel Meridian and Gen. Sargus Ruk that was almost supportive of such an idea. Basically, given the locations and timing of things, it appeared as if Ruk and the leader of the Steel Meridian might have some sort of part/current connection. Some even suggested they might be father and daughter (this doesn't really work canonically because Grineer are clones, but we also know some clones are special, such as all these notable characters). They share many similar character traits, for as much info we have on them to date. The reason this came about was because originally the Steel Meridian was named the Oracles of Saturn during early development of the syndicates. Since then, we have not been told otherwise as to the origin of the Steel Meridian (or much to the effect of any of the other syndicates for that matter), and so it is not out of the realm of reason to believe that the Steel Meridian was previously or is now stationed somewhere near Saturn. Saturn - the planet that Sargus Ruk just so happens to be the boss of. Similarly, there is a radio transmission in the liset that heralds about Sargus's conquering of the rebels on Saturn. If the Steel Meridian does have some sort of connection to Saturn, that would mean they were the rebels discussed in the radio transmission. According to the transmission, they were all to be executed, but if the above is true, that would not explain why the Steel Meridian still exists as a notable faction. Many think the reason for this is that IF Sargus and the Steel Meridian leader have some sort of unknown relationship, such as being father/daughter, that the 'rebels' aka the Steel Meridian, were actually sojourned by Ruk instead of executed. Basically daddy Ruk stages a cover up to try and save his alleged kid despite being seemingly loyal to the Queens (although he has deviated from their directives on occasion - possible evidence?). DE could always say she is his clone but turned out being female for the same reason X-23(Wolverine's female clone) is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeraIngvir Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 I doubt Alad was "creating a cure".. Still, perhaps Neffy, Frohd Bek are possible contenders for alliance. Both seems to be reasonable to some degree, and huggable. Still would like Regor as an ally, him being mission voiceovers would be smexy, but of course, he really, really, hates us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heatnix. Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 (edited) Alad? Create a cure? No, no. That guy is using the info we gave him to find new ways to **** us for sure. A lot of people want a team up with Tyl Regor. He's too smooth to be mad at him. I don't think you can hate this guy. Edited November 2, 2015 by DoomBunny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)General D1rtbag Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 I thought with the Natah quest we killed him? Like for real this time. Because didn't at the end of Natah Lotus ordered us to assassinate Regor when we are ready? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinigami_Greed Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 We never successfully assassinate enemies silly. Tyl for president. Tyl is love, Tyl is life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrashSpider Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 Dunno how I would feel until the given reason, but I would love it, if General Sargas Ruk would join us, guy was pretty awesome back then during that one event, and thinks slightly different compare to other Grineers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
traybong111 Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 (edited) Besides some bosses that have gone through "rework" we basically know nothing about them so it is of no importance (emotional or otherwise) whether they join us or not. Which is why I think Corpus bosses are in more dire need of rework compared to Grineer bosses because some Corpus bosses are just robot proxies. I can imagine Alad V or Ruk joining and their joining actually having some modicum of relevance or sense to Tenno. Not really Regor because, well, we did kill what was essentially his children--I don't see Regor considering joining Tenno anytime soon. Even if Grineer empire betrays him for some reason, his prestige as the top Grineer scientist would have Corpus offering him hefty sum for his knowledge; he'd have more likely options other than Tenno is what I'm trying to say. Vay Hek is too power-hungry; even if Grineer empire demotes or expels him, he's more likely to try to win its favors back by hunting down Tennos himself. It's not because he's loyal to the Grineer cause but because Tenno ranks could never grant him the degree of power and control he'd tasted in Grineer authority. I'd say Ruk has a higher chance of joining Tenno and actually staying that way once he does. Alad V is too unstable and there'd be no way to tell if he truly wished to assist the Tenno. However, against all odds and sensibility I do wish Alad V does find some kind of cure and some redeemable twists in his character. Not that it's necessary for Alad V to "join" Tenno per se for this to happen, but it's an interesting speculation. Still waiting for Steel Meridian and Sargas Ruk lore snippet ;_; Edited November 2, 2015 by traybong111 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paragasu Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 the only current boss that are worthy to be our ally is Tyl Regor, and the other corpus robot boss Lotus can count on me to do a black opss if any other boss being counted as ally...especially hek, ugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)a salsa wizard Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 Depends on the Boss. I'd still have the urge to kill them. But having the Stalker as an Ally would be cool oh yeah the stalker, I didn't think about him. It would probably work too, he is related to Excalibur right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Abyss_Raider Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 Depends on the Boss. I'd still have the urge to kill them. But having the Stalker as an Ally would be cool Oh man I totally forgot about Stalker! That would be an amazing alliance... He would just have to learn to get over his immense need for vengeance upon us in some way that doesn't involve... Killing us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)General D1rtbag Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 Oh man I totally forgot about Stalker! That would be an amazing alliance... He would just have to learn to get over his immense need for vengeance upon us in some way that doesn't involve... Killing us. But then that might mean he'll stop hunting us and we won't get any Dreads, Despairs,mor Hates! I ain't spending no plat on What Stalker pack! There's better things to spend it on like prime stuff or mods. Plus I'm more interested in learning why he turned on his own faction because he is Tenno because Warframe and powers. He's possibly a Tenno back in the Orokin age that was actually loyal to the Orokin instead of hating them like our Tenno did when they pushed them to extinction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domesticon Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 Only boss that comes to mind for me is Sargas Ruk, I want him on our side, he is great and has worked with the Tenno before, a valuable ally to be sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)General D1rtbag Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 Only boss that comes to mind for me is Sargas Ruk, I want him on our side, he is great and has worked with the Tenno before, a valuable ally to be sure. Wonder if he can allow us to have his flamethrower just a miniature version so we can wield it. Because that thing will pack a punch with the right mods. And that fire rocket could be the alt fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icpmcp Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 Lets go to battle with an army of Jackals :D They have betrayed their Corpus masters due to unfair work times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJD_Tarn Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 I'd like to work with regor. i feel like we could be great bros Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilemyre Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 (edited) To an extent I think nef and frohd bek are already sorta leaned to our side. But thats because we benefit them. I kinda want a neutral grineer boss now, has no problems with us but if it comes to having to fight us he will do it. Maybe convince us to leave in his dialouge speeches. Edited November 2, 2015 by Makairi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)EvilFlowerChild Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 The boss that has the highest chance of doing this is Alad. We did cure him so he's in our debt. You gave him the cure, not cured him, and only pc and xbox one players did, ps4 players helped nef, thankfully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilemyre Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 You gave him the cure, not cured him, and only pc and xbox one players did, ps4 players helped nef, thankfully. PS4 players had common sense Alad is unredeemable, used warframes as weapons twice, one he tortured and the other he turned into a infested shell, almost screwed over the corpus board, evolved the infested to infect machines and caused the mutalist strain (as well as giving infested projectiles) and tried to cause an epidemic. We also don't know how old Jordas is (unless he goes by the old j3 lore) so he could have also caused that when the let the mutalist strain loose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaharaEriclea Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 (edited) The boss that has the highest chance of doing this is Alad. We did cure him so he's in our debt. Nothing Alad V could ever say or do would earn my forgiveness after what he did to Valkyr and the unknown hundreds of other Tenno and Warframes he butchered in the name of the Zanuka Project... Edited November 2, 2015 by NaharaEriclea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PookieNumnums Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 Clem Nuff sed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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