DALOS Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 I'm not going to bring out the whole list of reasons as to why it sucks, I'll post this link to that here https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/572906-stealth-the-elephant-in-the-room/#entry6501457 What I will say is that after trying Ivara I came to the conclusion that she highlights what makes stealth so bad, all I need to say is why be as careful as she is when I can just bring a loki, max duration and spam invisibility and get it done x3 faster with no alarms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trunks013 Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 I think ivara is more like a Sniper frame am i wrong ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightSniper Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 Heh, I like your frankness in the title. But yeah, they will never get around to it in this century I'm pretty sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobWasHere Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 Ivara stealth is rather tactical than spammable loki invis. In group you rather wont use prowl, it will just slow you down, use invis bubble arrow instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega-Shadowblade Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 I think ivara is more like a Sniper frame am i wrong ? she has a lot built for that yes, but she has the potential for close range stealth and heated combat stealth as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DALOS Posted December 11, 2015 Author Share Posted December 11, 2015 Ivara stealth is rather tactical than spammable loki invis. In group you rather wont use prowl, it will just slow you down, use invis bubble arrow instead. I think ivara is more like a Sniper frame am i wrong ? No I'm pretty sure she's meant for stealth and again, loki can do it faster it will suck when the cat ladies come in as they can see past it but that's more reason to make at least some of the changes that I mentioned in the link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega-Shadowblade Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 If you roll in prowl it helps mobility without breaking stealth. I've found her to actually be much more convenient to stealth with than Loki, but that's my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shifted Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 All we need is (visible) vision cones and detection time (i.e. not instant) Stealth would be MUCH better just with those two things. Remove telepathic abilities from enemies and it's even better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DALOS Posted December 11, 2015 Author Share Posted December 11, 2015 All we need is (visible) vision cones and detection time (i.e. not instant) Stealth would be MUCH better just with those two things. Remove telepathic abilities from enemies and it's even better. No, in order to make stealth better all around we need lighting mechanics, a way to see enemy detection levels and more ways to get around a target without needing invisibility Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nagisawa Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 DALOS, I raise you an Ash, which was first and whose powers were supposedly 'Ninja' inspired. And a Loki STILL beats that bugboy with his pants off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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