(PSN)thehoocodfather Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 One of the problems with the game is just how vast the information is in the game for new players to process. For instance, yesterday I joined a recruitment mission to farm for parts. The poster specifically asked for a Nekros to desecrate. Started the mission, along with a Hydroid doing his pilfering swarm thing. I pulled out my Akjagara and started to devastate the infested and desecrating their remains. Next thing a message pops up on chat saying in a most unfriendly way ' stop shooting things, you are only here to desecrate '. Now I know the Akjagara is not a well known weapon, but it has a special use re its use via Desecrate and farming as the Wiki states here ; http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/AkJagara Anyone else had any issues with new players being 1) Rude 2) Overbearing 4) Wrong and how would you suggest dealing it ? I tried to send an ingame message via chat explaining how the Akjagara wroks re Desecrate but each time the mobs almost overwhelmed the cryopod and I had to go back in game and stop doing the message. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VenomousEnvy Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 You really don't have to take them seriously. Just ignore them. Each one can play however they want. And you know what? Next time someone tells you that, just smile at them, and quit the mission. It'll be fun for them without a Nekros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mileycyruuuus Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 (edited) If you were taken in to desecrate, you should probably just desecrate as the rest of your team should be more than enough to kill the mobs, and if you actually need to shoot things, then the team sucks and you should just leave. Edited December 25, 2015 by Mileycyruuuus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)AngelShur Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 Well, don't take them seriously. Second: they were right, as the swarm kills boost the droppable with the swarm mod on. Only thing is, they didn't spicify to you what was really the intention of you being there. Which was only to desecrate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)sphinxy111 Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 If you were taken in to desecrate, you should probably just desecrate as the rest of your team should be more than enough to kill the mobs, and if you actually need to shoot things, then the team sucks and you should just leave. did you read the link he posted. i didnt know this and from now on will use kohm when i play nekros.. Nekros does not have to be a vegetable, mine fights as hard as the other frames on my team and still desecrates most bodys. knowing you can double desicrate is super nice, i wonder if it works on wandering bosses. also try to inform the other player of their misunderstand or ignore them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elenortirie Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 Well I think its just another case of "you are here only to spam X" I'll never get what these guys have in their brains if they have any, but this one is just as ridicoulous as "frost does not need to fire at anything in defence cause its only there for snowglobe", and other similar cases of other warframes with some really suefull abilities.... Well, don't take them seriously.Second: they were right, as the swarm kills boost the droppable with the swarm mod on. Only thing is, they didn't spicify to you what was really the intention of you being there.Which was only to desecrate. I though they fixed that few updates ago and now it works on anything dying in area of pilfering swarm? on PC it surely does dunno how on consoles.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandr_ Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 Yes, I've had issues with new players being rude, wrong, and annoying. I've also had this problem with intermediate players, advanced players, PS4 players, Xbox players, and PC players. Almost seems like rudeness and being wrong is an issue everyone has to deal with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anatolius Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 If you were taken in to desecrate, you should probably just desecrate as the rest of your team should be more than enough to kill the mobs, and if you actually need to shoot things, then the team sucks and you should just leave.You're right but still they didn't have to be rude or anything. (Not you, the players on question)Personally I believe desecrate needs to be a timed AOE ability because when you are a nekros, you are sometimes bound to using desecrate, which can really hurt your survivability (even a SOTD build will want to desecrate sometimes ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ograzzt Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 I believe you can't slash infested corpses, more than that, their corpses are disapper in a few seconds. So... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaotyke Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 There is a reason I speak to every Nekros I get in my Void Suvivals and see them spamming Desecrate: "If you want to kill things, then do it. Pressing 3 all the time can be a hassle and take away the fun." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuestenjung Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 (edited) That´s why I never join games with specific recommendations, even if I want to play those missions. I am playing for fun and the way I want. I believe you can't slash infested corpses, more than that, their corpses are disapper in a few seconds. So... So what? You can cut almost every enemy into pieces and they will grant you then up to 3x more loot if you desecrate them, and corpses stay on the ground for 5 seconds, if you haven´t killed them with M Prime/explosion/channeling. Then you have 3 sec to desecrate them. Edited December 25, 2015 by Kuestenjung Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLavalampe Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 Well I think its just another case of "you are here only to spam X" I'll never get what these guys have in their brains if they have any, but this one is just as ridicoulous as "frost does not need to fire at anything in defence cause its only there for snowglobe", and other similar cases of other warframes with some really suefull abilities.... I though they fixed that few updates ago and now it works on anything dying in area of pilfering swarm? on PC it surely does dunno how on consoles.... The drop rates from the Pilfering Swarm Augment Mod will no longer be affected by Power Strength. The Pilfering Swarm Augment Mod will now generate drops for enemies that are slain being held by tentacles, not just dying from the tentacle’s appearing. In short, enemies don't need to be killed by the tentacles to have an added drop chance. https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/504855-hotfix-1704/ so if they didn't revert the changes in a later patch your totally right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)thehoocodfather Posted December 25, 2015 Author Share Posted December 25, 2015 So re Hydroid and Pilfering Swarm, a Nekros using an Akjagara is best shooting the mobs being held by the tentacles, as that way ; 1) The enemy held in the tentacle can drop a resource 2) The enemy shot by the Nekros that is being held by the tentacle can drop a resource and 3) If the enemy shot by the Nekros using an Akjagara is torn into multiple pieces then each piece can drop a resource when Descrated Which is nice to know. Noobs take note. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OvAeons Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 ignore and do what you want. That is what i do. If people whine, beech and moan about what i am doing and how they want me to do it, i IMMEDIATELY ignore them. I have a pretty firm grasp on efficiency in warframe. Anything that cuts a mob in pieces is more efficient then w/e that turd will tell you to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deathbricked Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 You really don't have to take them seriously. Just ignore them. Each one can play however they want. And you know what? Next time someone tells you that, just smile at them, and quit the mission. It'll be fun for them without a Nekros. i think that mentality ends up starting a cycle then fix things to be honest. i would think explaining to them how it works first and if they are still trying to act like a hard &#! and reject info just because its from a stranger then you leave. may as well try to educate them before ditching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ograzzt Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 So what? You can cut almost every enemy into pieces and they will grant you then up to 3x more loot if you desecrate them, and corpses stay on the ground for 5 seconds, if you haven´t killed them with M Prime/explosion/channeling. Then you have 3 sec to desecrate them. Again, you can't cut infested into pieces, also infested corpses disappear way faster than others, it's far from 5 seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnin Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 the proper response to someone like this is simply to put the person on ignore. You can't fix stupid, and trying to explain or argue is like talking to a three year old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey33 Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 Anytime you see CAPLOCKS lord or Bigbrother role-playing, just quit and save yourself some frustration.cheer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xFrostKnightx Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 (edited) Again, you can't cut infested into pieces, also infested corpses disappear way faster than others, it's far from 5 seconds. Took down my tent outside Baros spot in the relay to test this and confirm . You can cut infested into pieces (confirmed) they remain for 5 seconds (confirmed) You're wrong, Kuestenjung is correct. That being said and done, I agree with OP. Too many people are oblivious to everything outside of their steam guides or don't bother to read other frame abilities/ weapons. You can easily tell OP might have been a higher mastery than them yet they ignored him, all this arrogance and tunnel visioning is what you can expect from the newer players. Pro tip: Give them your knowledge, if they ignore and make up false facts become mentally traumatized and refuse to farm with players under Mastery 6-9 from then on. Edited December 25, 2015 by xFrostKnightx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuestenjung Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 Again, you can't cut infested into pieces, also infested corpses disappear way faster than others, it's far from 5 seconds. Again, like xFrostKnightx said, you are wrong. Only newer enemies can´t be cut into pieces, like Broodmothers and infested Moas, but DE said they are working on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaPain Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 It depends on mission: -generally you dont want to hydro enemies that ARENT oneshot with ult -if thats the case and hydro takes a time to kill the tanky units, its time to extract -if hydro oneshot everything you wount have time to shoot the enemies in the tentacles cuz u will be busy spammin 3 But that just my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MumblesMcphatty Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 Honestly I just laugh whenever I encounter this kinda thing - plenty of times I've kept up Desecrate duties and come out on top of the total kills rank. The idea that any frame - in any mission - is expected to do just one thing repeatedly is ridiculous. Every one of them is fully capable of multi-tasking and not messing up their primary task. If that was the sort of gameplay I signed up for Id still be playing Dynasty Warriors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)PillarOfWar Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 That's when you spam cast shadows for the rest of the mission and don't desecrate anything and just stand over the guy when he is downed. Or send him a message telling him to desecrate, O wait he can't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaliazane Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 One of the problems with the game is just how vast the information is in the game for new players to process. For instance, yesterday I joined a recruitment mission to farm for parts. The poster specifically asked for a Nekros to desecrate. Started the mission, along with a Hydroid doing his pilfering swarm thing. I pulled out my Akjagara and started to devastate the infested and desecrating their remains. Next thing a message pops up on chat saying in a most unfriendly way ' stop shooting things, you are only here to desecrate '. Now I know the Akjagara is not a well known weapon, but it has a special use re its use via Desecrate and farming as the Wiki states here ; http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/AkJagara Anyone else had any issues with new players being 1) Rude 2) Overbearing 4) Wrong and how would you suggest dealing it ? I tried to send an ingame message via chat explaining how the Akjagara wroks re Desecrate but each time the mobs almost overwhelmed the cryopod and I had to go back in game and stop doing the message. Use kohm and kohmak, they are way better at cutting groups of enemies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)thehoocodfather Posted December 25, 2015 Author Share Posted December 25, 2015 Use kohm and kohmak, they are way better at cutting groups of enemies Kohm is great for sorties. The problem is its ammo efficiency. The Kohmak is good, but compared to the Morelok or Atamos, it doesnt cut it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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