Movement Post-Update: Lunaro

[-CM-Emptiness]

To summarize:

10 hours ago, rngd444 said:

The sprint multiplier mix-up was unintended and will be fixed, the roll 'fix' is intended for everywhere in the game as it's not listed under Conclave in the patch notes. The double jump issue remains without comment yet.

We have 3 issues:

1. Sprint-speed multiplier - fixed as of latest hot-fix

2. Forward roll momentum - intended nerf

3. Loss of momentum on double jump - no comment

I'm under the impression 2 and 3 are somewhat connected issues.

 

For those who don't see any Parkour changes:

 

11 hours ago, -CM-Emptiness said:

Video 1c) in the below topic:

 

At around 10 - 15 seconds in the High Jump, we see the player do a forward roll that creates a boost of forward momentum. The player hovers in mid-air slightly before executing this move, a result of timing rather than the double jump + slide method the unfamiliar individuals employ.

With the new mechanic, the second-jump resets momentum, which stops the player in mid-air travel. It's not like hitting an invisible wall, but its extremely awkward given Parkour 2.0 mechanics promote smooth, integrated movement, of which momentum is a key factor.

 

Edited June 17, 2016 by -CM-Emptiness

[--DSP--]

9 minutes ago, Pratigious said:

De fixed it.

You certain they fixed the roll-jump momentum?

[Cryssoberyl]

25 minutes ago, --DSP-- said:

You certain they fixed the roll-jump momentum?

They didn't.

[rngd444]

34 minutes ago, Pratigious said:

De fixed it.

No, they did not. So far, they only reverted the sprint/movement multipliers for PvE. The double jump bug remains. Same for the widely disliked rolling momentum change.

[Laidain]

1 hour ago, --DSP-- said:

You certain they fixed the roll-jump momentum?

nope nvm,its still there.

[Laidain]

I am so sorry for passing on misinformation. 

Edited June 17, 2016 by Pratigious

[--DSP--]

Bring. It. Back.

[AurumandArgentum]

What are you on about? This post is so full of constructive ideas and really tells us the core of the problem, I really feel enlightened from reading this.

[--DSP--]

Revert it DE, PLEASE.

You guys already ruined the day of many during the Warframe nerfs, now you do this. Most of my friends don't play as much after update 18.13, and now you're doing this.

[--DSP--]

On 6/15/2016 at 7:58 PM, [DE]Megan said:

•    Fixed gaining an unintended amounts of sudden velocity when rolling in perfect timing with a double jump. A Developer note here: the parkour combination is still possible and remains an effective way to maneuver and travel forward if you have mastered the keystrokes. 

It was a really smooth and fun way of movement. You move fast, and feel like a ninja without breaking the game like Coptering. It's been around since the release of Parkour 2.0

Suddenly, Lunaro Update... They call it a "bug", and call it a "fix". While there was no point on removing it at all. Look at a poll here http://www.strawpoll.me/10500518/r.

They most likely "FIXED" it for Lunaro gamemode maybe? So what, you're gonna remove what's fun about Warframe just for another gamemode?

[AurumandArgentum]

8 hours ago, --DSP-- said:

It was a really smooth and fun way of movement. You move fast, and feel like a ninja without breaking the game like Coptering. It's been around since the release of Parkour 2.0

Suddenly, Lunaro Update... They call it a "bug", and call it a "fix". While there was no point on removing it at all. Look at a poll here http://www.strawpoll.me/10500518/r.

They most likely "FIXED" it for Lunaro gamemode maybe? So what, we're gonna remove a core movement just for a side gamemode?

Ummm this is what your on about? I can still do it perfectly fine, and also take a peek at this. Its not even harder to do then it as before.

Quote

•    Fixed an issue with Warframe movement speed multipliers not working outside of the Conclave. The normalization of speeds for Lunaro was improperly being inherited in PvE. 

 

[--DSP--]

1 minute ago, AurumandArgentum said:

Ummm this is what your on about? I can still do it perfectly fine, and also take a peek at this. Its not even harder to do then it as before.

 

No, many people thought they "FIXED" it because of that note. It is actually an entire different topic. They just made it sound like they're the same thing. You can do it just fine, but it will not be as fast as it used to because they REMOVED the momentum.

Edited June 17, 2016 by --DSP--

[AurumandArgentum]

Just now, --DSP-- said:

No, many people thought they "FIXED" it because of that note. It is actually an entire different topic. They just made it sound like they're the same thing.

But my point still stands, it's still easy to do, you just need to practice it.

[--DSP--]

2 minutes ago, AurumandArgentum said:

But my point still stands, it's still easy to do, you just need to practice it.

You can still do it, they never change the difficulty of doing it... They removed the MOMENTUM of it, that's what I am concern about.

" Fixed gaining an unintended amounts of sudden velocity when rolling in perfect timing with a double jump "

Edited June 17, 2016 by --DSP--

[Xekrin]

47 minutes ago, --DSP-- said:

Bring. It. Back.

Gosh I wonder if this thread

may have expressed something similar to yours? Nahhhhh...

Edited June 17, 2016 by Xekrin

[Laidain]

Guys just refer to this massive post for what OP is talking about:

 

[Xekrin]

8 minutes ago, Pratigious said:

Guys just refer to this massive post for what OP is talking about:

Yep, I sure did.

[-CM-Hekovashi]

I like those recent fixes-we fix energy drain for hysteria (nerf it again) and we fix leak of pvp parkour system in to pve (actually we don't). More tenno stats\movement\weapons nerf, just remember-you should keep enemy scaling untouchable and keep blending together pvp and pve stuff, only that will help this game.

[Sold0ut]

I was 110% okay with the Trin, Mirage and Excal changes recently. I likely will be with Ash's.

 

But this? This is just breaking core movement for the sake of fringy Lunaro.

 

GW2 was killed by pve balance changes breaking the game's other modes. And this is part of that.

Edited June 17, 2016 by Sold0ut

[Cryssoberyl]

26 minutes ago, Sold0ut said:

GW2 was killed by pve balance changes breaking the game's other modes.

You mean PvP.

Edited June 17, 2016 by Cryssoberyl

[Radjehuty]

There's a whole other thread about this. DE Nerfed movement speed by claiming a momentum mechanic was a bug. This is something the Devs have never once acknowledged for the year(s) this "bug" was in existence and just so happens to suddenly be a bug the moment Lunaro was released. It's a shame and it should be reverted to the old fun style of movement.

[--DSP--]

4 hours ago, Xekrin said:

Gosh I wonder if this thread

may have expressed something similar to yours? Nahhhhh...

We need more voices.

[Corvid]

11 hours ago, hammerheathen said:

Not All of them, only some. Much like only some of the Shadow Debt mods drop from moon spy.

Which PVE-usable conclave mods don't drop?

[Xekrin]

16 hours ago, [DE]Megan said:

Fixes
•    Fixed an issue with Warframe movement speed multipliers not working outside of the Conclave. The normalization of speeds for Lunaro was improperly being inherited in PvE. 

2 hours ago, --DSP-- said:

We need more voices.

read patch notes more.

Edited June 17, 2016 by Xekrin

[Reaper-God]

Fixed? Give me a break, nothing is fixed. Movement still lacks momentum, it`s like you`re hitting a wall mid-air while doublejumping, which is absolutely disgusting. You can`t speed up anymore, you`re stuck with the same old slow &#! movement speed.