(XBOX)EternalDrk Mako Posted January 13, 2016 Author Share Posted January 13, 2016 I always thought it was just Excalibur Umbra. I'm of the same mind that there would be too many frames and not enough room for them all. I think it probably will narrow down to that as stated its the only frame non founders cant get a stronger version of , then umbra will be poster boy 2 lol.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Alex_Traffo Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 very logical but at same time that would then lead to umbra bieng a frame onto itself, it should have powers that i dont know, standout and make it fun / viable / and useful in game A frame onto itself would make pointless him being Excalibur and the issue for those who want to use an upgraded poster boy would remain. Sure, visually it would still be Excalibur, but if played differently it would disappoint many, and for a reason! The community deserves a premium Excalibur version available to everyone, nothing more and nothing less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)EternalDrk Mako Posted January 13, 2016 Author Share Posted January 13, 2016 (edited) A frame onto itself would make pointless him being Excalibur and the issue for those who want to use an upgraded poster boy would remain. Sure, visually it would still be Excalibur, but if played differently it would disappoint many, and for a reason! The community deserves a premium Excalibur version available to everyone, nothing more and nothing less. very sound argument with the best intentions of the majority Edited January 13, 2016 by (XB1)EternalDrk Mako Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Shade0217 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 PLOT TWIST:The "quest" to get Excal Umbra is: Lotus finds a way for the Tenno to regain transference over the stalker. (maybe we succeed, maybe we fail.) Our reward is, more or less, Shadow Stalker. (Who more or less looks 96% similar to Chinese Umbra Excal Prime, minus the "Chinese-influenced bits" and gold metal coloring).Gives us more lore as to what a "warframe" is, explaining how they act on their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)EternalDrk Mako Posted January 13, 2016 Author Share Posted January 13, 2016 PLOT TWIST: The "quest" to get Excal Umbra is: Lotus finds a way for the Tenno to regain transference over the stalker. (maybe we succeed, maybe we fail.) Our reward is, more or less, Shadow Stalker. (Who more or less looks 96% similar to Chinese Umbra Excal Prime, minus the "Chinese-influenced bits" and gold metal coloring). Gives us more lore as to what a "warframe" is, explaining how they act on their own. now that ... seems viable ... possibly cure the madness of the stalker and its tenno ..but then who is the new, rival /senpai D: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Redemption_015 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 very sound argument with the best intentions of the majority True. Also, love the gif. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinetos Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 now that ... seems viable ... possibly cure the madness of the stalker and its tenno ..but then who is the new, rival /senpai D: Stalker's Apprentice takes over after he is stopped/restored/whatever like in all those tv shows where serial killers are caught and put away but someone copies them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornWithTeeth Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Mmmm. At this point, I'm much more onboard with the idea of "Save the Stalker from her* own madness and resentment" than I am with "Find and kill the Operator in her* sleep." *Stalker is an angry little girl with pigtails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Shade0217 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 (edited) now that ... seems viable ... possibly cure the madness of the stalker and its tenno ..but then who is the new, rival /senpai D: I appreciate the kind words! If the quests allows us to succeed, then we solve a problem I've always wondered - why do we have a random "warframe" running around assassinating us? If the quest makes us fail - well we still have our rival/senpai, who now hates us more for controlling umbra (or what "he" was.) Edited January 13, 2016 by (PS4)Shade0217 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)EternalDrk Mako Posted January 13, 2016 Author Share Posted January 13, 2016 Mmmm. At this point, I'm much more onboard with the idea of "Save the Stalker from her* own madness and resentment" than I am with "Find and kill the Operator in her* sleep." *Stalker is an angry little girl with pigtails. dun dun dunnn Stalker's Apprentice takes over after he is stopped/restored/whatever like in all those tv shows where serial killers are caught and put away but someone copies them who/what is the apprentice True. Also, love the gif. as do I .. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinetos Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 dun dun dunnn who/what is the apprentice as do I .. ? Derf Anyo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)EternalDrk Mako Posted January 13, 2016 Author Share Posted January 13, 2016 Derf Anyo point ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Redemption_015 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 I wonder if Umbra's passive will have a boost over the regular Excalibur...20% more damage with longswords compared to the original 10%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinetos Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 I wonder if Umbra's passive will have a boost over the regular Excalibur...20% more damage with longswords compared to the original 10%.or perhaps 10% increase for heavy blades and scythes instead of small blades Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)EternalDrk Mako Posted January 13, 2016 Author Share Posted January 13, 2016 I wonder if Umbra's passive will have a boost over the regular Excalibur...20% more damage with longswords compared to the original 10%. also viable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Circle_of_Psi Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Well, this topic had one hell of a turn around!, from being super angry and upset to bright ideas and everyone laughing at each other.. What happened, did everyone die, then come back as angels? Edit: Still mad tho, about no news, but lets..NOT go over the top......Agien Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)EternalDrk Mako Posted January 13, 2016 Author Share Posted January 13, 2016 Well, this topic had one hell of a turn around!, from being super angry and upset to bright ideas and everyone laughing at each other.. What happened, did everyone die, then come back as angels? Edit: Still mad tho, about no news, but lets..NOT go over the top......Agien lets just say it was arguments based on frustration and leave it at that shall we Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Redemption_015 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 (edited) Well, this topic had one hell of a turn around!, from being super angry and upset to bright ideas and everyone laughing at each other.. What happened, did everyone die, then come back as angels? Edit: Still mad tho, about no news, but lets..NOT go over the top......Agien I'd call it, a purge of sorts. But anyway, if Excalibur Umbra was lore related, (Which I still don't believe) what would you think the quest would involve? Definitely the Stalker, one way or another he is going to be in it. Edited January 13, 2016 by (PS4)Redemption_015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kai_Shiba Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 I'd call it, a purge of sorts. But anyway, if Excalibur Umbra was lore related, (Which I still don't believe) what would you think the quest would involve? Definitely the Stalker, one way or another he is going to be in it. Maybe... Stalker redeeming himself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Redemption_015 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Maybe... Stalker redeeming himself? Meh, a bit cliche. Also how would we get his weapons if that happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fionntan Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Meh, a bit cliche. Also how would we get his weapons if that happened? He opens a shop and sells them for.... credits? Ductas? Rep? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Shade0217 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 (edited) He opens a shop and sells them for.... credits? Ductas? Rep? You dual him. Maybe in the void. He trains you specifically on how to counter the sentient, and drops Nikana/kunai prime accordingly. (Figured I'd tie in the light/anti-light theme that was so popular at the beginning of this thread.) Part of the quest could be that, in addition of regaining transference, you have to sever his ties to Hunhow, much like Lotus severing our ties to the Orokin. That would also shed light into his knowledge of countering the sentient (see: counter-terrorism) All just theory of course, but we have the makings of a pretty epic fan fiction if nothing else. Lotus decides to take the fight to Hunhow, much like he did to Lotus in the Second Dream. Lotus decides the best method would be to free/regain transference over the stalker, as he is closest link to Hunhow. In doing so, we then have to destroy his ties to Hunhow. His time in the darkness actually serves to supply us with new skills/focus/preparation for potential new sentient war... Edited January 13, 2016 by (PS4)Shade0217 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fionntan Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 You dual him. Maybe in the void He trains you specifically on how to counter the sentient, and drops Nikana/kunai prime accordingly. (Figured I'd tie in the light/anti-light theme that was so popular at the beginning of this thread.) Part of the quest could be that, in addition of regaining transference, you have to sever his ties to Hunhow, much like Lotus severing our ties to the Orokin. That would also shed light into his knowledge of countering the sentient (see: counter-terrorism) All just theory of course, but we have the makings of a pretty epic fan fiction if nothing else. Lotus decides to take the fight to Hunhow, much like he did to Lotus in the Second Dream. Lotus decides the best method would be to free/regain transference over the stalker, as he is closest link to Hunhow. In doing so, we then have to destroy his ties to Hunhow. His time in the darkness actually serves to supply us with new skills/focus/preparation for potential new sentient war... I like that +1 Stalker giving a tut on sentients would be awesome :v Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)EternalDrk Mako Posted January 14, 2016 Author Share Posted January 14, 2016 You dual him. Maybe in the void. He trains you specifically on how to counter the sentient, and drops Nikana/kunai prime accordingly. (Figured I'd tie in the light/anti-light theme that was so popular at the beginning of this thread.) Part of the quest could be that, in addition of regaining transference, you have to sever his ties to Hunhow, much like Lotus severing our ties to the Orokin. That would also shed light into his knowledge of countering the sentient (see: counter-terrorism) All just theory of course, but we have the makings of a pretty epic fan fiction if nothing else. Lotus decides to take the fight to Hunhow, much like he did to Lotus in the Second Dream. Lotus decides the best method would be to free/regain transference over the stalker, as he is closest link to Hunhow. In doing so, we then have to destroy his ties to Hunhow. His time in the darkness actually serves to supply us with new skills/focus/preparation for potential new sentient war... interesting, this could be cool , and maybe instead of void it be in relays, open up more areas in the relay , and have stalker "dojo" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)sphinxy111 Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Note that if you fully scan the stalker you get a story about tennos murderous rampage and the stalker watched it all happen. I feel what ever he is he isn't a tenno, he talks about them during the conflict like he wasn't one of them. I think umbra could be a great opening to get teshin more screen time and figure out what regar meant by calling him pseudo-tenno (or something of the sorts like that) But what ever happens i think it has to envalve the stalkers. maybe some dialog of the day he talks about in his codex entry would be super neat. Also ive been following this thread for days and was surprised the mods didnt lock it XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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