Could I get some opinions on the Simulor and Helicor?

[(XBOX)GeckoGenesis]

I want to get a weapon from Cephalon Simaris, but I can't decide which one.  I've heard both good and bad things about the Simulor.  Sounds like a fun weapon, but some people make it sound like it's not worth getting unless you've got the Synoid one.  The Helicor sounds like it would be great for Kavat DNA farming (don't know how great damage is on it).  Which one should I get first? 

[Aurea_Hiigara]

The Simulor from Simaris is very so-so compared to its Synoid variant. The Synoid is awesomesauce.

The Heliocor is pretty awesome, though. Load up a Rhino with maxed out Iron Skin and just bash in some skulls until you get a kitten.

[(PSN)Exi-Eni-Eli]

Simulor is decent, while the Synoid Simulor is pretty OP

Heliocor has good damage, but you pretty much have to be close enough to kiss the enemy in order to be able to hit them with the thing.

[RunningTree3]

These wiki pages currently have stat comparisons of the Simaris vs Synoid versions:

Simulor

Synoid Heliocor

The Simaris Simulor is comparably lesser in all stats to the Synoid Simulor except in maximum stack damage by only +5.0 damage. So in many respects and opinions, the Synoid Simulor is an upgrade.

Whereas the Simaris Heliocor has a higher base damage and crit-chance, compared to the Synoid Heliocor which has higher stat-chance, making them 'slightly more equal' variants of each other -- although only the Synoid Heliocor can generate a spectre from channel-kills.

[(XBOX)GeckoGenesis]

I hear a lot a good stuff about Synoid stuff.  If only I can obtain such.  Would you recommend Simaris weapons for a low MR like me? 

Edited November 10, 2016 by (XB1)GeckoGenesis

[(PSN)watt4hem]

Synoid is definetly superior, but if you're still ranks away from mr12 imo just take it.

Heliocor on the other hand is better than its synoid counterpart

[Autongnosis]

18 minutes ago, (PS4)watt4hem said:

Synoid is definetly superior, but if you're still ranks away from mr12 imo just take it.

Heliocor on the other hand is better than its synoid counterpart

^ This.

[Insizer]

43 minutes ago, (XB1)GeckoGenesis said:

I hear a lot a good stuff about Synoid stuff.  If only I can obtain such.  Would you recommend Simaris weapons for a low MR like me? 

The problem is that weapons across all syndicates require the same MR. The syndicate secondaries (which have the lowest MR) require something like MR 10 8.

Edited November 10, 2016 by Insizer
thank you aligatorno

[aligatorno]

3 minutes ago, Insizer said:

The problem is that weapons across all syndicates require the same MR. The syndicate secondaries (which have the lowest MR) require something like MR 10.

MR8 actually.

[SDGDen]

the synoid simulor is a great weapon. however. I personally highly dislike ppl who use it, especially during the index. as they got ALL the points. and standing around for 20+ minutes while giant ballz kill everything is not fun for anyone. its great for farming tho.

[Insizer]

Just now, aligatorno said:

MR8 actually.

I stand corrected. Thank you for that. I'll correct my post.

[Cazzzz]

From personal opinion, I would go with the Heliocor. With the exception of the syndicate buff, the Suda variant has less statistic potential. The Siimulor on the other hand would be best saved for later if you want the mastery for it. The Suda variant of the Simulor is notably better, not to mention the syndicate buff. (Even more insane if you've got a Mirage handy  ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) )

 

[(XBOX)GeckoGenesis]

If I went with the Helicor, I should probably play solo when farming Kavats, right?  Do Helicor scans affect teammates in any way? 

[(PSN)watt4hem]

12 hours ago, (XB1)GeckoGenesis said:

If I went with the Helicor, I should probably play solo when farming Kavats, right?  Do Helicor scans affect teammates in any way? 

Well, for one, the cats'd be dead

[Xzorn]

14 hours ago, SupremeDutchGamer said:

the synoid simulor is a great weapon. however. I personally highly dislike ppl who use it, especially during the index. as they got ALL the points. and standing around for 20+ minutes while giant ballz kill everything is not fun for anyone. its great for farming tho.

 

Were we playing the same Index? Cuz SImulor is kinda crappy against heavy armor and it takes like 2 minutes to push those guys over lvl 100.

[tischkanteVS]

The Heliocor is pretty damn awesome if you need to scan stuff and Cats. Thus the Name allmighty ScanHammer, be sure to carry Codexscanners with you and Happy hunting

[xiaodenden]

If I have to choose between regular Simulor and Helicor, I would go with Helicor first and then get Simulor later for mastery points.   It's super fun scanning things while smashing them into bits so, since you'll be killing things anyway, you might as well fill your codex at the same time.  Like others said, Synoid version of Simulor is superior to the regular version so once you get the Synoid version, there's very little point of keeping the regular version.  I find that Synoid version of Helicor is more of a side grade of the regular version so I wouldn't sell Helicor once you get the Synoid version. 

[(XBOX)GeckoGenesis]

Ya'll convinced me.  I'm going with the Helicor!  Now, I shall get myself a kitten by smashing in the skulls of an army of kavats. 

[(XBOX)Kliuqard]

On November 10, 2016 at 6:55 AM, aligatorno said:

MR8 actually.

MR6, actually. MR8 would be melees.