Making sense of the Tenno (2nd dream&War Within spoilers)

[ninjacat2015]

Lore seem to be give impression the Tenno have been around for a while. They form their own distinct culture with warrior ethos, spiritual values. And it seem like the Tenno have been part of the Orokin society for a while. Kind of like how the Jedi have been protectors of the Republic for many generations.

But 2nd dream shows Tenno to be just kids.

How long were the Tenno active in Orokin era ? How did they form this whole warrior culture in matter of few years ?

And why do Tenno still talk like kids. Their bodies may be child-like. But they had been waging wars for the Orokin. And in post fall era dictating the political order. If you put some kind of space samurai into the body of a 10 year old he would not behave like a normal 10 year old at all.

 

 

Edited November 17, 2016 by ninjacat2015

[Sitchrea]

14 minutes ago, ninjacat2015 said:

Lore seem to be give impression the Tenno have been around for a while. They form their own distinct culture with warrior ethos, spiritual values. And it seem like the Tenno have been part of the Orokin society for a while. Kind of like how the Jedi have been protectors of the Republic for many generations.

But 2nd dream shows Tenno to be just kids.

How long were the Tenno active in Orokin era ? How did they form this whole warrior culture in matter of few years ?

And why do Tenno still talk like kids. Their bodies may be child-like. But they had been waging wars for the Orokin. And in post fall era dictating the political order. If you put some kind of space samurai into the body of a 10 year old he would not behave like a normal 10 year old at all.

 

 

Well after the War Within we know they are interphasic beings, so they don't age because they aren't really part of our universe anymore.

As for the talking like kids, they ~were~ put into stasis not once, but twice - once with their human-ish interphasic bodies which were released in the Second Dream, and second when Vor woke us up at the beginning of the game. So, Tenno haven't really "Lived" that much since getting their memories back, tbh.

[bowiespoon]

I thought they went into cryosleep post-collapse

[Hixlysss]

As for talking like kids, we could attribute that to their amnesia. But to be honest, I've seen many an adult who talk like kids so...I donno. As for aging, the void affected them in weird ways.

[Gintoki-Zero]

my own head canon suggest that the tenno was already an established concept the when kids were radiated with the void.

kinda like a sort of ceremonial guard or sorts that was canalized into what we know today

Edited November 17, 2016 by Gintoki-Zero

[brainjelly2g0]

Well, I'd argue the whole "I'm not a kid anymore Teshin!" stuff has moved us full swing into the angsty teen phase. By the next cinematic quest, I say we'll be shotgunning beers at Steve Harringtons and talking about who kissed who.

[Hixlysss]

Just now, Gintoki-Zero said:

my own head canon suggest that the tenno was already an established concept the when kids were radiated with the void.

kinda like a sort of ceremonial guard or sorts that was canalized into what we know today

But sadly we know this to be not true, second dream kinda spills that out. We only formed the focus schools and the...culture, after we became "tenno", which we got the name from the zariman 10-0 or ten zero...tenno...

[Gintoki-Zero]

yeah... theres that >.< but its kinda weird that a society sprouted so fast in that short of a time. it could have been created by margulis to lessen the burden of being outcasts?

also we dont really know if the concept of tenno did not exist before the kids got zapped with void.

its implied but not directly stated

[Brasten]

11 minutes ago, Gintoki-Zero said:

yeah... theres that >.< but its kinda weird that a society sprouted so fast in that short of a time.

That's not too surprising. It is partly borrowed due to the Orokin trainers. Societies can develop very quickly, especially during the middle of War. At base a society is the structure and order a group of people living/working together create. It's often taken as a synonym for larger civilization's culture, but it doesn't have to. Think about high school, college, various armed services, public services like fire or police, and prisons. There are plenty of different societies with their own moraines and idiosyncratic codes of behavior.

The word fellowship would also describe the Tenno. They are a group apart from, but still contained within, the broader Orokin society/culture. It is not for example Filipino society compared to French society. 

This forum (and Warframe's player base as whole) is a society, that has developed over only 4 short years.

[BornWithTeeth]

56 minutes ago, ninjacat2015 said:

Lore seem to be give impression the Tenno have been around for a while. They form their own distinct culture with warrior ethos, spiritual values. And it seem like the Tenno have been part of the Orokin society for a while. Kind of like how the Jedi have been protectors of the Republic for many generations.

But 2nd dream shows Tenno to be just kids.

How long were the Tenno active in Orokin era ? How did they form this whole warrior culture in matter of few years ?

And why do Tenno still talk like kids. Their bodies may be child-like. But they had been waging wars for the Orokin. And in post fall era dictating the political order. If you put some kind of space samurai into the body of a 10 year old he would not behave like a normal 10 year old at all.

 

 

Unfortunately, you're dead right. If you look at Tenno organisations, their Dojo architecture, the statement that they held rank under the Orokin, that they had artisans and weaponsmiths, all of the existing lore says "Tenno are space samurai". Then, the dialogue which DE keep writing for them says "No. They're children, and their minds, perspectives, emotional reasoning, all of those intellectual and emotional capacities are those of children, nothing more."

 

 

Guys.....I am actually losing faith in DE, I really am. They're mishandling their own lore and introducing far more inconsistencies than can be reconciled, while at the same time urgently wrecking their own game balance by releasing the most broken series of RNG gated mods imaginable.

[Kazzamo]

Remember, the Tenno didn't even know they were children until the end of second dream. When they were in the pods they thought they were their frames, so all the war, all the culture, it's one big long fantasy dream to them. They remember bits and pieces but the whole thing would be fuzzy. War Within shows that this was done to them to not only make them easier to control to the Orokin but to try and protect them from their own memories of what really happened to them.