Estarossa1 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Which is better and why? why so many people hate ash? his 4th ability has been reworked and guess what no one even plays him anymore ..i have only saw 1 ash in public since the beginning of the month lol.. When will their useless comparisons stop? why does loki has a huge head...haha and WHO IS THE BETTER SPY?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 (PSN)Iudex_Nemesis Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Well for a start Loki is alot more helpful to a team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Estarossa1 Posted January 17, 2017 Author Share Posted January 17, 2017 Just now, (PS4)Snakeboy1990 said: Well for a start Loki is alot more helpful to a team. but he is more frail right? he dies easily? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 SilvaDreams Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Neither is better, both have their roles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Teloch Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 7 minutes ago, Estarossa1 said: WHO IS THE BETTER SPY?? Ivara Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 (PSN)x_RaiLight_x Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 3 minutes ago, Estarossa1 said: Which is better and why? Loki. For obvious reasons. 4 minutes ago, Estarossa1 said: why so many people hate ash? People didn't like him before the nerf that much, and he got completely destroyed with the recent nerfs. 5 minutes ago, Estarossa1 said: When will their useless comparisons stop? Probably never. You and I are not contributing to this issue to stop. 5 minutes ago, Estarossa1 said: why does loki has a huge head...haha Because he's smarter. 5 minutes ago, Estarossa1 said: and WHO IS THE BETTER SPY?? In-game: Loki. Story-based: Ash. We all know that the intro of the Second Dream quest leaves no room for debate here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 (PSN)Iudex_Nemesis Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Just now, Estarossa1 said: but he is more frail right? he dies easily? He has his invisiblity which also has a longer duration than ash. Yes he's squishy but you just need to be aware of your surroundings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Estarossa1 Posted January 17, 2017 Author Share Posted January 17, 2017 1 minute ago, Teloch said: Ivara oh you got me there lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 ashrah Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 loki is superior...u can solo face roll sortie with loki...take high ground spot decoy disarm group up enemeies penta puf all dead...only downside loki have is very squshy.. but once u learn how to negate that he was one of best frames Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Estarossa1 Posted January 17, 2017 Author Share Posted January 17, 2017 1 minute ago, (PS4)x_RaiLight_x said: Loki. For obvious reasons. People didn't like him before the nerf that much, and he got completely destroyed with the recent nerfs. Probably never. You and I are not contributing to this issue to stop. Because he's smarter. In-game: Loki. Story-based: Ash. We all know that the intro of the Second Dream quest leaves no room for debate here. is the recent nerf that bad? cause im currently building him but anyway if i dont use his 4th ability is his other abilities good enough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Extroah Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 3 minutes ago, (PS4)x_RaiLight_x said: People didn't like him before the nerf that much, and he got completely destroyed with the recent nerfs. Yeah, no, he didn't. He's still fine and OP just the way he was before. B2T : Loki is easier to use for Invisibility, even though Ash can get the same Duration but with higher energy cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Nazrethim Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 4 minutes ago, Estarossa1 said: Which is better and why? Comparison is pointless. Loki is a fragile utility stealth frame not designed for direct combat, Ash is a somewhat tanky stealth frame designed around stealth or direct combat options (a Skirmisher). Loki provides distraction and CC, Ash kills. 4 minutes ago, Estarossa1 said: why so many people hate ash? his 4th ability has been reworked and guess what no one even plays him anymore ..i have only saw 1 ash in public since the beginning of the month lol.. Because he used to be a mindless press42win, the hate remains even after rework. The bulk of Ash users weren't actually fans of ash, just fans of p42w, they ran back to Miramulor as soon as the BS rework landed. 4 minutes ago, Estarossa1 said: When will their useless comparisons stop? Never, because people think that having invisibility means they play the same. 4 minutes ago, Estarossa1 said: why does loki has a huge head...haha Actually his head is fairly realistic in size if you remove the horns. 4 minutes ago, Estarossa1 said: and WHO IS THE BETTER SPY?? The best Spy is a frame we haven't found yet, because it's damn good at hiding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Estarossa1 Posted January 17, 2017 Author Share Posted January 17, 2017 1 minute ago, ashrah said: loki is superior...u can solo face roll sortie with loki...take high ground spot decoy disarm group up enemeies penta puf all dead...only downside loki have is very squshy.. but once u learn how to negate that he was one of best frames "was one of best frames" ? wAS? so he is no longer that good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 TESTAMENTEXE Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Easy, "Why be trASH when you can be Lo-Ki" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Vermitore Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Irradiating Disarm. What more is there to say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Estarossa1 Posted January 17, 2017 Author Share Posted January 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, TESTAMENTEXE said: Easy, "Why be trASH when you can be Lo-Ki" but his deluxe skin o.O koga skin is too @(*()$ good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Estarossa1 Posted January 17, 2017 Author Share Posted January 17, 2017 1 minute ago, Vermitore said: Irradiating Disarm. What more is there to say? humm makes sense..but it gets boring at one point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 BenzinNinJa Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 21 minutes ago, Estarossa1 said: Why does loki has a huge head... Here's why... (not my artwork) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Estarossa1 Posted January 17, 2017 Author Share Posted January 17, 2017 1 minute ago, BenzinNinJa said: Here's why... (not my artwork) hahhaa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Kronxito Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, Estarossa1 said: humm makes sense..but it gets boring at one point? Just take a Loki. You wont have problems with him. Make sure you get primed flow + quick thinking so you can escape from a random bullet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Rioma Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Loki's 4 is one of the best abilities in the game all ash has is fatal teleport which is only good because daggers have covert lethality loki's invis is better and has switch teleport with his decoy making some spy vaults trivial Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Kronxito Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 (edited) Aaaaand mind the stalker and zanuka (Alad V boss) because they disable your skills. So you can't go invisible aaaand...... you know.... make sure you have your *ss covered Edited January 17, 2017 by ArionLightning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Estarossa1 Posted January 17, 2017 Author Share Posted January 17, 2017 1 minute ago, ArionLightning said: Aaaaand mind the stalker and zanuka (Alad V boss) because they disable your skills. So you can't go invisible aaaand...... you know.... make sure you have your *ss tapped my mains valkyr and inaros are not scared of those ~~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 kyori Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 1 minute ago, ArionLightning said: zanuka (Alad V boss) because they disable your skills. Since when zanuka disable warframe's skills? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Kronxito Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 (edited) 1 minute ago, kyori said: Since when zanuka disable warframe's skills? Go to Alad V assasination and see it by yourself. I did it when it was a lvl 100 sorties and I couldnt go invisible. It was disabled at the next second (and there were NO nullies next to me). Edited January 17, 2017 by ArionLightning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 (PSN)ArnnFrost Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 21 minutes ago, (PS4)Snakeboy1990 said: Well for a start Loki is alot more helpful to a team. False, he is helpful for teams but not always because sometimes its better to not disarm some types of high level enemies for their one shot melee possibility. Ash's Augments are all better in teamwork play. Removing armors from enemies, Sharing invisibility with all squad members within range, and finally getting rid of the toughest Bombards/Heavy gunners around with finishers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Which is better and why?
why so many people hate ash? his 4th ability has been reworked and guess what no one even plays him anymore ..i have only saw 1 ash in public since the beginning of the month lol..
When will their useless comparisons stop?
why does loki has a huge head...haha
and WHO IS THE BETTER SPY??
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