Gizardpuke Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 this has likely come up before, but whats the point in putting 100 void into make them radiant when you still get commons like +90% of the time. seems rather pointless to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega-Shadowblade Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 It still ups the chance of receiving the rarer items. Anything to tilt the odds more in your favor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-VV-william Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 well, it's RNG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fadingtheory Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 It improves the odds of getting the rarer stuff, it doesn't guarantee it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazzamo Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 Common will always be well... common. It's up to the player if they want 8% better chance at the rare drop or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xXDeadsinxX Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 It’s definitely not pointless at all. The point of making relics radiant is to increase your odds of getting a rare reward from that said relic. Of course RNG also plays into the system as well, you can get the same reward 10 times from a relic and get 1 new reward from that same relic, that’s just how RNG works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizardpuke Posted July 16, 2018 Author Share Posted July 16, 2018 not disagreeing about the increased chance. and i get its got value, but for me, 1 in 10 isnt rare, its more like very rare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega-Shadowblade Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 1 minute ago, Gizardpuke said: not disagreeing about the increased chance. and i get its got value, but for me, 1 in 10 isnt rare, its more like very rare. well with all due respect, for games with drops like warframe and some others, 10% is pretty generous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishyflakes Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 To be honest it'd be harder to make plat if Rare parts were easier than 10%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizardpuke Posted July 16, 2018 Author Share Posted July 16, 2018 28 minutes ago, Fishyflakes said: To be honest it'd be harder to make plat if Rare parts were easier than 10%. which is not my concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xXDeadsinxX Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 1 minute ago, Gizardpuke said: which is not my concern. If you’re really that concerned about RNG, then it seems like to me that Warframe really isn’t the right game for you, the game is based around RNG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firetempest Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 Just now, Gizardpuke said: which is not my concern. But maintains the general health of the game by supplying plat purchases to DE for trading to fund the game and keep content flowing. Otherwise you would likely be seeing more things being vaulted sooner or more sleazy practices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizardpuke Posted July 16, 2018 Author Share Posted July 16, 2018 7 minutes ago, Firetempest said: But maintains the general health of the game by supplying plat purchases to DE for trading to fund the game and keep content flowing. Otherwise you would likely be seeing more things being vaulted sooner or more sleazy practices. i always buy plat when i get the 75% discount. and spend if i wanna get something. most of it goes on weapon slots and frame slots anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishyflakes Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 3 hours ago, Gizardpuke said: which is not my concern. It's a balanced system; don't worry about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kerthis Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 Assuming 4 people using exact same radiant relic: 4(2%*5) . You have to put those kind of things into perspective. While by default being solo you have 2% chnace of getting that rare item if you equip whole party with the same radiant relic you will end up with: 5 times better chance of getting that rare multiplied by 4 tries. Thats resonable chance if u ask me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADM-Ntek Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 what annoys me are the forma in high level relics. getting a forma out of a axi relic almost feels like a fail. especially if it is radiant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizardpuke Posted July 18, 2018 Author Share Posted July 18, 2018 (edited) On 2018-07-16 at 9:27 PM, ADM-Ntek said: what annoys me are the forma in high level relics. getting a forma out of a axi relic almost feels like a fail. especially if it is radiant. this i agree with. forma BP should be in the common section, not in the uncommon section. when you get a forma BP from an uncommon drop you really feel like you've wasted a radiant relic (potentially). i dont mind them in all relics, just not in the uncommon section. Edited July 18, 2018 by Gizardpuke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)DeadFall526 Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 Pointless and waste of time bothering using traces. IMO, its a illusion and negligible at best. Dont bother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizardpuke Posted July 19, 2018 Author Share Posted July 19, 2018 another thing, this might not go down well with DE, but forma BP for common and the actual forma for uncommon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fadingtheory Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 (edited) On 2018-07-16 at 5:27 AM, ADM-Ntek said: what annoys me are the forma in high level relics. getting a forma out of a axi relic almost feels like a fail. especially if it is radiant. Pretty sure its supposed to feel like this by design. Edited July 19, 2018 by fadingtheory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizardpuke Posted July 20, 2018 Author Share Posted July 20, 2018 (edited) 20 hours ago, fadingtheory said: Pretty sure its supposed to feel like this by design. yeah screw that. i really love getting a forma BP from a silver from a radiant. totally worthless. if it was an actual forma..... range is very broad for RNG too. 7 - 30 VT? might as well be 12 - 25. remember its like this so people spend money on the game. its also the basic fact that free to play games, end up actually costing more than none free to play games. Edited July 20, 2018 by Gizardpuke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fadingtheory Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 5 hours ago, Gizardpuke said: yeah screw that. i really love getting a forma BP from a silver from a radiant. totally worthless. if it was an actual forma..... Ok. 5 hours ago, Gizardpuke said: remember its like this so people spend money on the game. its also the basic fact that free to play games, end up actually costing more than none free to play games. Ok. I mean, you don't have to spend more money on relics and forma than an actual game would cost. That's on you. And if your objective is to just rail against the F2P model, well, you'll be at this for months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizardpuke Posted July 20, 2018 Author Share Posted July 20, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, fadingtheory said: Ok. Ok. I mean, you don't have to spend more money on relics and forma than an actual game would cost. That's on you. And if your objective is to just rail against the F2P model, well, you'll be at this for months. its not spending on relics, its spending on plat when its at 75% discount. and out of curiosity (you dont have to mention it in here), but if you play warframe, you likely play games like destiny or destiny 2. or elite dangerous (a guess on this one fur sure as i dont really know). but if you compare the money you spend on this in comparison to other games, it might surprise you. Edited July 20, 2018 by Gizardpuke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firetempest Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 7 minutes ago, Gizardpuke said: its not spending on relics, its spending on plat when its at 75% discount. and out of curiosity (you dont have to mention it in here), but if you play warframe, you likely play games like destiny or destiny 2. or elite dangerous (a guess on this one fur sure as i dont really know). but if you compare the money you spend on this in comparison to other games, it might surprise you. Yeah, I've bought the game several times over now. By about 4 or 5 TrIpLe AaA cost games. But I've played it for thousands of hours over 5 years. It's been cheaper than any theme park MMO. And has kept me from buying as many games, like any you mentioned. What did I do with that plat? Slots, cosmetics, and the rare prime part I couldn't be arsed to farm. But the first two takes up 95% of my spending. But I like to just kill and move in the game, so I guess i don't notice the grind as my much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fadingtheory Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 49 minutes ago, Gizardpuke said: its not spending on relics, its spending on plat when its at 75% discount. and out of curiosity (you dont have to mention it in here), but if you play warframe, you likely play games like destiny or destiny 2. or elite dangerous (a guess on this one fur sure as i dont really know). but if you compare the money you spend on this in comparison to other games, it might surprise you. I don't play Destiny, I spent 7.50 on Elite Dangerous and uninstalled it after failing to land my ship for 20 minutes (At that point, it doesn't matter if its the games fault or mine, there's just not going to be any fun to be had), and I haven't spent a dime on Warframe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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