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    Rewards are not Accurate (Railjack)

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    2 hours ago, (XB1)Hadley T said:

    I ran one mission at Gian Point today, and had 40 Intrinsics to start with.  Mission Summary said I had earned 50 points, but of course my new total back in Dry Dock was only 45; I only received 10% of the indicated reward.

    You didn't earn 50 intrinsics from a Gian Point mission.  You earned 5, it showed that you gained 10.  The results screen starts from the total you started the mission with and goes from there.  It didn't show you going from 0 to 50, but from 40 to 50.

    X-box update when?

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    3 minutes ago, (XB1)KayAitch said:

    - we're going to spend a week on that PC content release and then look at consoles is basically all console players relegated to the "we don't really care about you guys" pile.

    I disagree as they are making strides to try and get us stuff sooner, as in we're going to get the lich changes almost the same time as PC - which is something that console players have been complaining about.  I've said all along to be careful what we wish for, but alas.  Seems like we'll have to agree to disagree here.

    4 minutes ago, (XB1)KayAitch said:

    It is, it was in the PC patch notes (feel free to go read all the bugs in all 7, it's many pages) - if intrinsics are your permanent progress but you lose them when you complete a mission that's a stability bug. Try checking what you have mid mission VS what you have when you get back to your orbiter.

    If you're speaking of the lack of bonus affinity counting towards intrinsics, that's a visual bug in the mission report screen.  You aren't losing any intrinsics.

    X-box update when?

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    6 minutes ago, (XB1)KayAitch said:

    Oh, then why did they change on PC? You love the pay to build economy? Great, but you're in a tiny minority.

    Personal preferences as opposed to stability issues.

    6 minutes ago, (XB1)KayAitch said:

    Yes, that's what people generally mean by stability: crash out mid mission? Random host migrations? Don't get any intrinsics because of where you were when the mission completes or because there were boarders? Those are all stability issues.

    Crashes sometimes happen and have happened before RJ came out - same with host migrations.  Lack of intrinsics (haven't seen any bug reports for people not getting any at all) is not a stability issue.

    7 minutes ago, (XB1)KayAitch said:

    What? I said that was fine. DE having Christmas hols is fine. No releases over Christmas, also fine. 

    Apologies then.  I thought you were being sarcastic.

    8 minutes ago, (XB1)KayAitch said:

    However, it's about to be February. We're 7 patches behind, and they're talking about PC getting a content release before they tackle game breaking bugs on our platforms.

    Which is due to a number of factors already talked about.

    10 minutes ago, (XB1)KayAitch said:

    Yes, that means two cert releases in Feb, but it also means any issues with all the changes they're making to liches (and there may well be) we're not waiting again

    We'll have to see the state that the lich changes are in when they get to us.

    X-box update when?

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    3 minutes ago, (XB1)KayAitch said:

    1) consoles on a version that doesn't have game breaking bugs, regular crashes, broken intrinsics, no trading, awful drop tables with a 2% of a good reactor that then rolls a capacity of 5 and average drop rates for wreckage materials in single digits when we need 15k.

    Those are mostly personal preferences.  They don't make the build unstable.  You could make a list like this after every single build we've ever received.

    5 minutes ago, (XB1)KayAitch said:

    Sure, that totally justified no patches between mid Dec and the start of Jan.

    Glad to know that you think DE employees aren't entitled to have some time off.

    6 minutes ago, (XB1)KayAitch said:

    We've already gone over all this extensively in this thread, I don't really want to repeat it, but basically: shipping early was good and much appreciated, but they also needed to prioritise bug fixes for us.

    X1 is usually about a week behind PC, which is great, I'm fine waiting a bit, but now we're waiting for PC to get the next content release (and there will be bugs in that too that need fixes before we get them).

    Economy changes and drop changes aren't bug fixes.  And, most of the changes you're looking for require cert.  When DE were able to put everything together they decided it didn't make sense to cert a build only to cert another build for the lich changes.

    And, no, XB1 is not usually 1 week behind PC.

    6 minutes ago, (XB1)KayAitch said:

    Neither is yours. DE will have the actual figures and be able to look it up.

    Correct, anecdotes are not evidence, no matter where they come from.  I'm not the one who made an unsupported fact claim, however.

    Look, I get that you're frustrated.  I would love to see the economy changes and drop rate changes myself.  But, we have to be patient.  DE tried to do a good thing for us by getting us RJ so that we could play it.  If they hadn't rushed and worked their asses off to do it when they did, we may not have gotten RJ until maybe a week or so ago - we might even still be waiting for it.  Can you imagine the salt that would be flowing if we didn't have RJ yet?  It's not in its final state.  It's got some bugs.  At least we have it and can try it out.  If you don't like the state it's in, then do other things until the next update drops.  Demanding that DE give us an update RIGHT NOW isn't helpful and isn't doing anything but stress people out.

    X-box update when?

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    Just now, (XB1)KayAitch said:

    Try getting a railjack match on the X1 in the UK. It's a ghost town. Same for Liches.

    I don't have any issues getting matches.  Recruiting is rife with people looking for murmurs.  If you're playing on the EU servers, that might be the issue, as NA servers have always been the most popular and sort-of default.  Either way, your anecdote is not evidence.

    Rivens Should Be Satisfying AT LEAST

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    7 minutes ago, 6-BristleBack-9 said:

    unbelievable... if every weapon were to have the possibility of reaching the same power level as good ones (not exactly as you think, but pls get the point right) there would be balance in the game.

    Again, it's much easier and makes much more sense to balance one weapon than 299 weapons.

    But, it seems that you're not really open to exploring any possibility except that any nerf makes something trash, efficiency is the measure of fun, only certain weapons are viable, and DE hates their player base.

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    X-box update when?

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    1 minute ago, (XB1)KayAitch said:

    Yes, it does when that's two more weeks of broken systems and players quitting in droves.

    There's no evidence of console players quitting in droves.

    1 minute ago, (XB1)KayAitch said:

    Your statement would be correct if either of the following was true:

    1) consoles on a stable version (they aren't, Railjack is busted) or...

    2) the timeframe is days (it isn't, our last release was over a month ago, the next PC release is a week away)

    Actually, the build is stable.  The existence of bugs does not make the build unstable.

    The time frame only seems long because of a couple of factors.  First is that we just had a holiday period and DE are as deserving of a break as anyone else.  Second is that they busted their asses to get us RJ before Xmas as a nice gesture, so that build came earlier than we were used to.  Had they held it back to normal amount of time, we'd not see this next release as being out of the ordinary.

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    Rivens Should Be Satisfying AT LEAST

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    15 hours ago, 6-BristleBack-9 said:

    very very very oversimplified verdict -> nerfing rivens is not justified/logical or serves the purpose for balancing. 🙏

    Balancing involves both buffs and nerfs.  To say that nerfing something does not serve the purpose of balancing is simply wrong.

    If one weapon among 300 is outright more powerful and efficient than all the others, then it makes a lot more sense to tone down that one weapon than to try and buff 299 other weapons in different ways to match.  Trying to only buff is how you get power-creep as well.  Would it be fun if you had a gun that wiped out all the enemies on the map with a single trigger pull?  It would be efficient as all get out, but it wouldn't be fun (or maybe it would be fun for you as you seem to equate efficiency and fun).

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    Legendary Core

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    2 hours ago, (PS4)Bumbasquat303 said:

    Im Mr 28 played 463 days and the only legendary Core ive had is the one that everybody got free from DE,think my rewards are bugged because of this.

    It's just incredibly rare.  Even if you do daily sorties, you might not ever see one.

    Railjack is an example of the worst way to port an update to console.

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    4 minutes ago, (PS4)Stealth_Cobra said:

    I think there's a pretty clear consensus that the latest PC patch is a good build for a cert candidate. It's not perfect yet, since RJ has a couple fundamental flaws that will take time to iron out, but it would improve so many core issues with RJ that it's almost mandatory to get it to consoles asap.

    Sure, now there's a rather large list.  People were asking for updates well before lots of those items were available or ready to port to console.  And, by the time they got this far to have all those things, they looked ahead and said, "Hey, we have another update-worthy thing coming.  Why cert twice rather quickly, when we can cert once and drop a large update all at once?"  Seems like a pretty reasonable thing to me.

    7 minutes ago, (PS4)Stealth_Cobra said:

    Frankly, my gut feeling is that the only reason it's not on consoles yet is because they are making insane money on plat purchases of rush repair drones and they know deploying the next update will kill that cash cow for them.

    If that were the case, they wouldn't be removing them from the market.

    7 minutes ago, (PS4)Stealth_Cobra said:

    Another argument can me made that by leaving players free to pursue the ivara abort farm for a month, they are also killing long-term progression, as people are now pretty much maxed out since DE didn't act fast to bring us the nerf fix.

    That's the fault of the players.  If those players get bored because they have nothing to do, they need only look in the mirror - especially as what they are doing is probably an exploit (abusing the glitch to spawn near the objective with the RJ safe and far away certainly is).

    Rivens Should Be Satisfying AT LEAST

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    grammar

    26 minutes ago, 6-BristleBack-9 said:

    as those weapons' rivens, i mean... wait for it... META™ weapons' riven, it is fine if they turned out to be useless now. Just turn your 120+ rolled META™ rivens into endo, :satisfied:. It is a sin having those rivens in the first place. They exist but they should be completely useless in DE's opinion.

    I honestly don't know why people thinks exactly as DE but... shouldn't this be like this -> before nerfing viable weapon's(aka META™) rivens, make other ones viable(aka META™).

    Let's be realistic here.  If your riven has a little bit less power, that doesn't mean that it's now useless.  They are still powerful mods that can grant multiple bonuses to weapons.

    Also, other weapons are viable already.  Nerfing a weapon that is far and away more powerful than the others and bringing it in line with other viable weapons is what balancing is.  Balance would not be to make all the weapons so powerful that each and every weapon is capable of trivializing the game.  I get that your efficiency will necessarily decrease to some extent when a riven/weapon is made less powerful, but efficiency is not the way we should be measuring the game.  If efficiency is the end goal, then it begs the question what it is that you need to be efficient for?  It is not an end in itself.

    Railjack is an example of the worst way to port an update to console.

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    15 minutes ago, (PS4)Stealth_Cobra said:

    Thing is, if they sent the great reactor Hotfix to cert two weeks ago, we would have it for a week by now instead of waiting for the yet unreleased lich and next nightwave patch that will probably take another week to finish, test, then a week to cert.

    And then people would complain that it takes too long to get the Lich changes.

    Just because you personally want to have some specific change now doesn't mean that DE needs to do it now.  Trust me, I'd like the changes to avionics drops, reactors, and mats economy as well, but the reality is that things take time and we need to be patient.

    Console, on the whole, have not been patient, and DE tried to get us something quickly to give us a nice surprise, and they've gotten dragged through the mud for it.  No matter what they do, they get attacked.  They can't win.

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    Railjack is an example of the worst way to port an update to console.

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    26 minutes ago, (PS4)Stealth_Cobra said:

    I think people appreciated getting Railjack 1 week after PC, even if it was buggy. If all console updates were one week late, we would all be exctatic.

    What people don't appreciate ,however ,is not getting any of the crucial patches PC got after that after more than a month of waiting

    And, that's precisely why we don't get updates 1 week after PC.  If DE are continually making changes, at what point do they snap the line and say, "This is what console gets"?  I guarantee you that if they shipped a build today, then people would complain that we didn't get the next hotfix that PC gets.  There really is no way to win for DE.

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