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I lost my console recently and started to play on PC/Steam 

But now the initial excitement of finding WF again is gone after realizing how far of a recap it will be 

Same loss of interest I had after moving to PS4 for Overwatch

Dont let crossing over be a death sentence for Tennos. Especially now that DE is closing in into hosting 4 platforms 

I was able to link emails but please can we also link progression 

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Well, to me the main issue is that allowing cross progression would mean that they would have to change how Tennogen and platinum in general works since A)Tennogen cost plat on consoles and artists would be losing money from PC sales unless they sell rights to DE, and B)PC has way more cash to burn thanks to our freedom for discounts and thus people are gonna stop buying on consoles and just get all their plat on PC, thus making Sonysoft lose money

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43 minutes ago, cheliel said:

What if it had other positives 

Imagine if it will improve the in game economy, and unit people chatting on discord, twitch and YT 

 

Doesn't matter.

On 2018-10-14 at 10:43 AM, ShadowExodus said:

Impossible due to different update builds.

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6 minutes ago, (PS4)calvin_0 said:

Warframe doesnt need crossplay but it does need cross platform access which will solve problem like yours...

That still runs into the issue of only being feasible between consoles without changing two of the monetization systems

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What do they mean by “different update builds” and how is that a dealbreaker?

Right now a 3 day affinity booster is easing/expediting the progression for me.

And although the node opening looks tedious at first, finishing earlier quests is fun because of the voice acting/lore tidbits 

 

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3 hours ago, cheliel said:

What do they mean by “different update builds” and how is that a dealbreaker?

Right now a 3 day affinity booster is easing/expediting the progression for me.

And although the node opening looks tedious at first, finishing earlier quests is fun because of the voice acting/lore tidbits 

 

They aren't on the same update. You just moved to PC right? You might have noticed that the PC version is currently on Update 23.10.2, dubbed 'Chimera'. Consoles, however, are not. That's because it takes longer for Consoles to get updated, so DE brings features out on PC first, cleans up the worst bugs, and then releases on consoles.

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also DE said that they wouldn't slow down the Updates on PC for the Consoles.

For Crosssave/-Play, all the Platforms would have to have the same Built. Which would either result in Consoles getting the same Updates as PC with all the Bugs but with a longer time between Hotfixes due to Certification bei Sony/Microsoft/Nintendo. Or there would be much less Updates due to increased time needed to ensure all runs smoothly on all Platforms.

The Only way I see Crosssave/play happening is that DE gets the option to apply Hotfixes whenever they want without certification. And that is highly unlikely.

For now PC ensures that Console Players get the polished version of each Update without the majority of the initial Bugs of each update.

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But these two explanations of updates don’t justify that players can’t cross over with their items 

A one time “jump” wouldn’t need a simultaneous update. Simply scan the matching items during the update then move them to the other platform 

Someone mentioned fortnite do they allow skin transfer for example 

 

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10 minutes ago, cheliel said:

But these two explanations of updates don’t justify that players can’t cross over with their items 

A one time “jump” wouldn’t need a simultaneous update. Simply scan the matching items during the update then move them to the other platform 

Someone mentioned fortnite do they allow skin transfer for example 

 

That gets into Sony and Microsoft allowing you to migrate your whole account, which is unlikely to happen with Warframe.

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Because reasons is not a reason 

Neither is money

it’s a free to play program now nearing 4 platforms, why would one platform hoard a FTP player base?

even if someone here could answer that, we are not spokespersons for Sony, Micro and Nintendo so its not fair to assume their stance 

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15 minutes ago, cheliel said:

Because reasons is not a reason 

Neither is money it’s a free to play program now nearing 4 platforms, why would one platform hoard a FTP player base 

It literally is because of money. Money is always a reason, it's why half the things in the game are what they are. Sony and Microsoft would be losing money by allowing their players to move away with how WF platinum works. They're even less likely to let you take your stuff and mice to a competitors platform. The issue of cross-play/progression/migration lies in the hands on the console makers, not DE.

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Again we are not in the position to make excuses/reasons for those companies are we

Even medical tests and exams are managed by cross companies, is gaming that exclusive and complicated that it can’t coop between companies 

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1 hour ago, cheliel said:

Again we are not in the position to make excuses/reasons for those companies are we

Even medical tests and exams are managed by cross companies, is gaming that exclusive and complicated that it can’t coop between companies 

Im sorry, you're beating a dead horse at this point.

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2 hours ago, cheliel said:

Again we are not in the position to make excuses/reasons for those companies are we

Even medical tests and exams are managed by cross companies, is gaming that exclusive and complicated that it can’t coop between companies 

DE has explicitly stated it's not up to them on the issue, who else could it be up to, especially considering what Sony's policy on it has been and how crossplay wasn't gonna happen for Fortnite in full until Sony said yes. It's obvious that, if it involved their gaming platform and cross play, etc., the console company has the final say. And no, this horse has been beaten to death and turned into glue at this point in time. Your thread is no different than the rest.

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