Now that DE removed the extra cost on PoE arcanes they could do the same with Hema

[DirePresent]

Liking the newest changes regarding the arcanes here, but since they won't be giving back the resources we used to built them with their original crafing requirements that invalidates the original statement regarding Hema's requirement of Mutagen Mass. Thus if they decided it'd be more fair to allow all players to get arcanes in a cheaper way there's no reason to avoid doing the same with that weapon requirements.

[(PSN)cleefsentence]

Even if i already have hema and farmed it i'm pretty ok with that. The arcanes weren't cheap to craft, mine those minerals was (is) a pain.

Sorry DE but seems that the excuse "well people already spent materials on the craft so can't sry guys" can't be credible anymore.

[Jiminez_Burial]

Except for the fact that in regards to the Hema and the Sibear, DE have stated outright that they aren't going to change the costs.  They never said that for the arcanes.

[DoomFruit]

They also outright stated that they were looking for ways to reduce the grind, and then they released the Hema.

EDIT: and there's not exactly any harm in going back on your word when the original promise was "we intend to keep shafting the playerbase".

Edited April 5, 2019 by DoomFruit

[peterc3]

Counterpoint: this has nothing to do with Hema. If you have a Clan and use it as you're supposed to, it should be no issue doing the research for it.

[DirePresent]

12 hours ago, Starfreak911 said:

Except for the fact that in regards to the Hema and the Sibear, DE have stated outright that they aren't going to change the costs.  They never said that for the arcanes.

They also said Lato and Braton Vandal were never going to come back and here they are, DE's word is a bit more flexible than one might think.

[DirePresent]

Just now, peterc3 said:

this has nothing to do with Hema.

It has to do since it's the same case: if the arcanes cost was reduced and players that obtained them the expensive way weren't refunded, there's no reason to not apply the same logic with another existant items that have an exorbitant cost and that was the exact claim from DE to justify mantaining the high cost for Hema: that there were people that had already payed a high cost to get it, the same thing happened with Cetus arcanes and that didn't stop them to reduce the cost at all.

[peterc3]

1 minute ago, DirePresent said:

It has to do since it's the same case: if the arcanes cost was reduced and players that obtained them the expensive way weren't refunded, there's no reason to not apply the same logic with another existant items that have an exorbitant cost and that was the exact claim from DE to justify mantaining the high cost for Hema: that there were people that had already payed a high cost to get it, the same thing happened with Cetus arcanes and that didn't stop them to reduce the cost at all.

Clan weapons have literally nothing to do with the economy for Cetus. The economy of Cetus being changed around has literally no bearing on the Clan research economy.

It's only a ridiculously high cost if you are not in a functional Clan. Add active people or switch to an active one.

[Basalto]

22 hours ago, Starfreak911 said:

Except for the fact that in regards to the Hema and the Sibear, DE have stated outright that they aren't going to change the costs.  They never said that for the arcanes.

DE also said prime warframes wouldn't have better stats than standard warframes; look where we are now.

[DirePresent]

On 2019-04-05 at 1:53 PM, peterc3 said:

Clan weapons have literally nothing to do with the economy for Cetus. The economy of Cetus being changed around has literally no bearing on the Clan research economy.

Well you're wrongly extrapolating the issue, I am not talking about specific economies changes but about the fact DE changed the cost of something that was expensive even when on another instance that the same happened they declared such thing could not be done to show respect to those that had already spent lots of resources.

 

On 2019-04-05 at 1:53 PM, peterc3 said:

It's only a ridiculously high cost if you are not in a functional Clan. Add active people or switch to an active one.

Personally I am in a big clan that has already completed all research, yet I still think it's an unfair thing to show they can and will change economic costs in some places while they won't in others based on an arbitrary reason. And why can't people try to mantain a small clan if they want just due to a single wrongly priced item?

[DoomFruit]

11 hours ago, DirePresent said:

Well you're wrongly extrapolating the issue, I am not talking about specific economies changes but about the fact DE changed the cost of something that was expensive even when on another instance that the same happened they declared such thing could not be done to show respect to those that had already spent lots of resources.

 

Personally I am in a big clan that has already completed all research, yet I still think it's an unfair thing to show they can and will change economic costs in some places while they won't in others based on an arbitrary reason. And why can't people try to mantain a small clan if they want just due to a single wrongly priced item?

Please, don't feed the troll. One look at that idiot's post history indicates that either their sole purpose for existing is to wind people up, or they really are so blindly stupid as to white knight every single decision that DE makes regardless of how unwarranted, not thought through or actively hostile it is.