ReptileZA Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 (edited) Why nerf the dread? It was fine as is the blade damage balanced out the high crit damage. Now the Paris Prime is just blatantly better. Gremlins also got a ninja nerf. Im sick of DE just nerfing things left and right without proper reasoning. Im done with warframe for now and will come back as soon as they finally know in what direction they are going. Originally I was thinking of buying a founders pack but thats no more. Edited September 19, 2013 by ReptileZA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merryfistmas Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 (edited) It's also worse than the Paris now except against light infested if it was actually nerfed. Edited September 19, 2013 by merryfistmas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tantananan Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 What nerf? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega224 Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 far as I can tell while i'm using my gremlins and dread they remain unchanged you might be experiencing a bug however the paris prime out damaging the dread makes sense as it is a direct upgrade to the bows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jugganatha Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Why nerf the dread? It was fine as is the blade damage balanced out the high crit damage. Now the Paris Prime is just blatantly better. Gremlins also got a ninja nerf. Im sick of DE just nerfing things left and right without proper reasoning. Im done with warframe for now and will come back as soon as they finally know in what direction they are going. Originally I was thinking of buying a founders pack but thats no more. What exactly did they nerf about Dread? That thing used to be my baby, so my concern is genuine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlienTetris Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Honestly, i agree but they are still in open beta. (not for long) the problem they have is they dont listen super great for being such a small company. But in the long run the games O-K-A-Y, just the nerfs are uncalled for and i see a valid point from your side. PVP has broken everything with "OP WEAPONS PLZ NERF" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
immolator1001 Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Dude I think you're just realizing that the dread sucks compared to the paris prime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drasiel Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 (edited) Could you please inform those of us that are unaware what nerf you are talking about? I haven't seen anything in the patch notes and I haven't noticed any different behaviour from the Dread. Edited September 19, 2013 by Drasiel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErickJatobA Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 (edited) I always find Dread worse than Paris. But Dread is about the feeling. Edited September 20, 2013 by ErickJatobA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OvAeons Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 (edited) 1. Paris prime was always better then dread (both are still really good, just not sure where dread stands atm) 2. Gremlins is most likely the same(i still see lots of crits), the data in the game may be wrong. Does not mean the gun is different. From the wikia it looks like the dread did get hit hard (but still may be incorrect data ingame vs actual), but will still be effective VS the corpus Edited September 19, 2013 by OvAeons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jugganatha Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 (edited) I see... the crit damage got nerfed... from 200% to 150%... Edited September 19, 2013 by Jugganatha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cybernetix Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 So the crit damage of something like the dread is grounds for a nerf, yet I can still carry 540 rockets for my ogris and that's balanced? ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorkzillaa Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Here's my suggestion. IF PvP is going to be a thing, and that is what this nerf was about, just assign weapons seperate values balanced around PvP. Don't ruin the only reason to use a weapon over another comparable weapon just for "PvP balance". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aure7 Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 well primes are supposed to be better, duh.And if it was REALLY NERFED, then F*** me because I decided to keep dread instead of paris yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazyKnight Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 (edited) At least TEST stuff before crying nerf, the Ui is wrong it is still 2x damage. Edited September 19, 2013 by LazyKnight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kerethna Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 I was appalled to see the dread with a 1.5x multiplier on the stats, but trying it out in-game I still see a 2.0x multiplier. Dread owns paris and still bests paris prime vs most enemies by the way. This means the displayed stats are entered manually and not retrieved from weapon data... Rather disappointing since they could be wrong at any time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OblivionNecroninja Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 (edited) At least TEST stuff before crying nerf, the Ui is wrong it is still 2x damage. ...What IS it with Awesome Free-To-Play Shooter-RPGs and Terrible Terrible Inaccurate UI? Firefall has this problem too... Edited September 19, 2013 by OblivionNecroninja Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxyKabam Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 I was appalled to see the dread with a 1.5x multiplier on the stats, but trying it out in-game I still see a 2.0x multiplier. Dread owns paris and still bests paris prime vs most enemies by the way. This means the displayed stats are entered manually and not retrieved from weapon data... Rather disappointing since they could be wrong at any time. good lord, I hope you're right dreads my baby (formaed) I wanna see it grow up and be a successful weapon and finally have some little dreads of its own(lvl 30) when I'm all old and can't take care of myself I'll need my dread to fight off all dem new weapons baby can't do that with 1.5x new weapons gonna take me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiendFyre Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 I have the Dread too... doesn't seem like a nerf happened. Either way, stop complaining, there is a new crossbow on the horizon :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dasmir Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 (edited) Let me guess the UI tell you that ? You know the UI is bugged as hell too ? /Thread and stop whinning Edited September 19, 2013 by Dasmir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merryfistmas Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 The UI and wiki both say that. Neither sources are particularly accurate. I'm guessing someone changed the wiki to match the UI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dasmir Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 The UI and wiki both say that. Neither sources are particularly accurate. I'm guessing someone changed the wiki to match the UI. *People see changes in the UI* OH NOES MUST BE TRUE TIME TO CHANGE WIKI ! *cought* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OvAeons Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 *People see changes in the UI* OH NOES MUST BE TRUE TIME TO CHANGE WIKI ! *cought* that is what i feel has happened... grem-grem feels the same as before. still sweet to use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dasmir Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 that is what i feel has happened... grem-grem feels the same as before. still sweet to use. Pretty much a example is the glaive charge damage, the UI say its does 75 but in game still150.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptic Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 I've also noticed that the new UI is sometimes inaccurate. I've caught it showing the wrong stats one moment and the correct ones later. It definitely sounds like this is the issue, or at least I hope it is. If anyone at D.E. is reading this can you (or someone else there) please confirm or deny if there have been any such changes to the Dread or Twin Gremlins? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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