Voltix Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 First if all, his freeze in only good in solo because in multiplayer, other players just shoot the enemies Second of all, his ice wave loses effectiveness after level 40 mobs. Third of all, his only good move is snow globe, its like the bread an butter of Frost Finally, avalanche loses effectiveness after level 40 mobs as well So in conclusion, Frost sucks at life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-CM-Uraoen Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 I think you have some merit in what you are saying, but obviously have not explored all that Frost has to offer. Maybe use a little different verbiage next time? As in, Frost is not as useful to me as he is to other people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetalGerbil Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 they are working on how armor acts in this game. currently everything sucks after a certain point. be it frost skills or guns. only armor ignore gets the job done. wait till after the armor fix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suraklin Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Frost is pretty much only necessary for Orokin T2/T3 Defense, and other defense missions vs Corpus or Grineer. Other than that, yeah, pretty lackluster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnderDragon1324 Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 He has extremely good armor and decent health. Yes his avalanche kinda needs a buff, but he is meant for defense and nothing else. You want to go to 30 waves? Frost has your back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kubmix Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 (edited) You're using frost against Infested or what? Edit*: Every frame is usefull, and very good. Just play with the most you like. Edited October 31, 2013 by kubmix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnderDragon1324 Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 (edited) You're using frost against Infested or what? Exactly Edited October 30, 2013 by EnderDragon1324 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophista Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 (edited) aside from fact that hes tough enough to actualy pass on redirection+vitality combo and can do fine at any lvl without any D mods.[or just vigor] [thus making more space for some modding variety.] Frost is not the most broken frame. Edited October 30, 2013 by PiotrGracz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSD3000 Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Honestly, Frost's abilities (and maybe just freezing damage in general) should apply an armor debuff along with the slowing effects of chilling something. Think about it, if something is damn near frozen, it becomes fairly brittle and easy to damage. Maybe just make the debuff effect melee weapons, and certain "physical" guns like Miter. That could add some nice synergy for melee, and make Frost a nice melee frame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnderDragon1324 Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 My comment was removed? k,,,,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitresco Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 (edited) Gee, having such a powerful ability such as Snow Globe surely means he sucks, right? Edit: What is 150 shield base and how does it work? Edited October 30, 2013 by Nitresco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Absolom_ Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 "omg I got a new warfrm, im so rdy 2 giv feedbak and tel ppl it suks, needs buf, omg omg" -Your thread in my eyes. But seriously...kiddo, exploring the frame does not mean building it. It needs time, resources, a potato, a few forma and again, invested time to shine. Do all that and you'll have all rights to complain about him. Far as I can see, you did not do any of this. An offensive Frost is pretty useful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genoscythe Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 He was one of the best frames once, but since the enemies got all leveld up'd, he lost effectiveness and is now only viable in defense missions against ranged mobs. I think his frost wave should be buffed to 50% physical impact and to 50% ice damage, so that he has a certain armor-ignore and the ice damage. His 1 is the most useless at the moment it needs a heavy buff, i would suggest to make it like thate "snapfreeze" ability of the N7 Paladin in Mass Effect 3, a frost sprach that does medium dmage and freezes enemies solid, applying a debuff on them. I have no idea how his 4 could be buffed atm, but its low-damage, so I thing a bit of AP would fit. In general wait till armor 2.0 and lets see then. PS: Have you ever heard of constructive and destructive critic? Yours is surely destructive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CY13ERPUNK Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 frost needs work the way many frames do, the main problem is dmg scaling and how snow globe is too powerful my ideas: freeze - freezes one target solid for 5/10/15/20 secs, this is NOT broken by dmg, destroys targets shields (if any), also slows main target and any others in a small aoe for 5/10/15/20% atkspd/movspd, same duration ice wave - all targets hit by ice wave lose shields permanently, all targets hit are also ragdolled and knocked to the sides left/right as the wave moves, all targets hit slowed by 5/10/15/20% atkspd/movspd for 5/10/15/20 secs snow globe - globe no longer blocks projectiles, but reduces dmg taken while inside the sphere by 20/40/60/80% (not enhanceable), globe also slows all enemies inside sphere by 10/20/30/40% atkspd/movspd avalanche - functionally identical to my freeze revamp but massive aoe and with an additional dmg component all of frosts abilities now have utilitarian function (slows/kb/freeze) and he is no longer the snow globe one trick pony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fiendishrabbit Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 While adding an AP component to Avalanche would be a pretty good idea (as Rhino Stomp puts it to shame as it is) I disagree that Frostwave is that bad. It adds freeze damage to a whole bunch of enemies, slowing them to a crawl. Great crowdcontrol (although a Soma or Hek with a cryo component could do the same thing I guess). Maybe just drop the animation time or add some forcefield damage to knock opponents back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiddlyMcGee Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 (edited) He was one of the best frames once, but since the enemies got all leveld up'd, he lost effectiveness and is now only viable in defense missions against ranged mobs. I think his frost wave should be buffed to 50% physical impact and to 50% ice damage, so that he has a certain armor-ignore and the ice damage. His 1 is the most useless at the moment it needs a heavy buff, i would suggest to make it like thate "snapfreeze" ability of the N7 Paladin in Mass Effect 3, a frost sprach that does medium dmage and freezes enemies solid, applying a debuff on them. I have no idea how his 4 could be buffed atm, but its low-damage, so I thing a bit of AP would fit. In general wait till armor 2.0 and lets see then. PS: Have you ever heard of constructive and destructive critic? Yours is surely destructive. <3 mass effect reference snap freeze was pretty amazing but i do like the idea of that because freeze seems like a pretty useless power and i know due to my experience with both frost and frost prime with frost as my most played frame and my 2nd frame when i started and i can safely say that frost either needs a damage buff on all of his offensive powers and either tweaking for freeze to completely remove shields or to swap it out to a power similar to mass effect 3's snap freeze Edited October 31, 2013 by DiddlyMcGee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lautalocos Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 people, let´s not by blind. frost is only used because of snow globe. avalanche, freeze and ice wave are very useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharrack Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 You're using frost against Infested or what? Hey, that's a lot of fun. You take a small globe, a heavy melee weapon and a nice crossroad with lots of passing infested and after a short while all the pent-up stress is gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yatin_117 Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Frosts for life! Hey is my favorite warframe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amistyrja Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Am I the only one who actually uses Avalanche when shet hits the fan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xaiux Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Hey, that's a lot of fun. You take a small globe, a heavy melee weapon and a nice crossroad with lots of passing infested and after a short while all the pent-up stress is gone. I know exactly what you mean. Except I like my Dual Ether, not any heavy melee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick4222 Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 well,im more of a attacker than prottector but still,frost is a good frame if you master it,i touhgt frost sucks too.until i masterd him,now frost is my defense frame and i kinda like him,but i will always hate the ultrasonic speed he have.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadScream Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Yesterday I played with an awesome frost in a defense mission on pluto : as he was aware that Frost wasn't an offensive warframe he put all his mods to optimise his snow globe AND avalanche. The snow globe was giant and the avalanche's aoe too, and enemies got frozen for loooong time when he used it ! It's only about right mods at the right places. I've never seen a Narcissus mission being that easy before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helljack84 Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 (edited) And in a world without Frost: Yesterday I played with an awesome Volt in a defense mission on pluto : as he was aware that Volt wasn't an offensive warframe he put all his mods to optimise his electric shield AND overload. The electric shield was giant and the overload's aoe too, and enemies got shocked for loooong time when he used it ! It's only about right mods at the right places. I've never seen a Narcissus mission being that easy before. Just sayin...a single ability that is really good in specific situations doesn't make a Warframe great. Edited November 2, 2013 by Helljack84 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Cupid Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Honestly, Frost's abilities (and maybe just freezing damage in general) should apply an armor debuff along with the slowing effects of chilling something. Think about it, if something is damn near frozen, it becomes fairly brittle and easy to damage. Maybe just make the debuff effect melee weapons, and certain "physical" guns like Miter. That could add some nice synergy for melee, and make Frost a nice melee frame. U my friend have just made frost epic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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