Glaives and the overall state of melee

[Circmfission]

Even after the "nerf" glaives are still EXTREMELY powerful, way too powerful even, at least, in the case of the glaive prime and cerata. The glaive prime and cerata both exist in a state that is essentially "if you have this equipped do not bother using your other weapons", meanwhile every other glaive with the exception of one is practically garbage. The glaive in question is the pathocyst. While it still largely oneshots corpus and infested, on bulkier corpus units and grineer it is the literal only glaive in the game where combo potential with a secondary comes into play. At risk of angering the brainless inaros players I think it's safe to say that glaives could stand to be hit a bit harder. They aren't being used as melee weapons, they're a throwable bomb that coats a room in slash/toxin/viral procs. And going back to secondary comboing, I think it would GREATLY aide other melee types to receive the same utility. Single daggers and machetes come to mind. With their unique finisher mechanics, daggers would make for an extremely dynamic playstyle if given the ability to combo with a pistol like glaives do. Meanwhile machetes suffer from mediocre stats across the board almost wholesale, with the machete wraith being the only "good" one, but with the nerf of CO and the migration of melee more towards heavy attacks over sustained combo, machetes have greatly suffered for their lack of good crit stats. Giving them pistol combo potential would not only help bring them up to par, but also further separate them from longswords in usage.

[Leqesai]

23 minutes ago, SkeletonJehova said:

meanwhile every other glaive with the exception of one is practically garbage

Oh?

Falcor and Xoris are both very good. I'd argue Xoris is better than Glaive Prime and Cerata but to each their own. Glaive Prime's slash procs are certainly useful against grineer but Xoris comes out on top vs Corpus and Infested.

[Andele3025]

Pathocyst has full viral, corrosive heat as a option and bulky damage, even the regular glaive kills quick on SP.

Also machetes are the 3r-4th best heavy attack spam weapon due to being a spammable 360, guaranteed slash and free movement attack (and the zaw regens energy).

[George_PPS]

On 2021-07-27 at 5:59 PM, SkeletonJehova said:

......

Why don't you propose BUFFing what you actually like instead of something you don't' like and do not like other players to use? DE's fun-killing nerfing cycles have finally been stopped or slowed down, and we are enjoying the new damage systems with more damage and PLAYERS ARE COMING BACK for the power fantasy. And you want to nerf it instead of making weaker ones stronger?

What you enjoy the most and want them to be buffed? Just say it. 

[George_PPS]

On 2021-07-27 at 6:24 PM, Leqesai said:

Oh?

Falcor and Xoris are both very good. I'd argue Xoris is better than Glaive Prime and Cerata but to each their own. Glaive Prime's slash procs are certainly useful against grineer but Xoris comes out on top vs Corpus and Infested.

Exactly. Bravo!