(XBOX)Mastermitchel89 Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 (edited) Weapons like Tenet Diplos and Sepulchrum secondary fire have Lock-on and homing targeting Problem: They are too slow or difficult to target and aim to actually use effectively, or are worth less than normal firing Solution: Increase the reticle targeting/ Lock-on radius -Like Mesa, so its simpler to aim and more widely useful. but not too bigger Simply a cone that slowly shrinks further from the player until its pin point 40+ metres away where after that point goes back to usual pin point aiming This is specifically a crowd control issue where crowds need 1 bullet per/s, not 1 after 12 seconds of aiming precisely 24 different times Second issue: Lock-on turning Automatic weapons into semi weapons Example Tenet diplos Solution: Automatically fire after locking-on, Even if there is a 1 second delay Edited November 4, 2023 by (XBOX)Mastermitchel89 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakkhar Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 3 minutes ago, (XBOX)Mastermitchel89 said: Problem: They are too slow So mod them to be faster. Use mods/warframe powers/arcanes that increase fire rate and bullet speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Mastermitchel89 Posted November 4, 2023 Author Share Posted November 4, 2023 (edited) Fire rate does not increase a players ability to aim Don't say git gud because no one should be forced to "Aimbot" for 20 minutes straight to use a weapon Better yet don't cut context from the full issue before understanding the point Edited November 4, 2023 by (XBOX)Mastermitchel89 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pakaku Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 (edited) I think those drawbacks are fair, you do gain that auto-aim ability after all. The Diplos are just awful guns overall, though, and need serious help. But the Sepulcrum is so good that I forget it even has an alt-fire. Edited November 4, 2023 by Pakaku 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Royal_Elf_Mika Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 (edited) i have tried it and the autoaim is flat out worse than normal aiming, better to just use Mesa instead. Edit: what i mean is, i actually wish the Diplos had a different mechanic, the auto aim system is soo bad that it just is annoying to use. which is sad, because the Diplos is great without the autoaim system it has. i also wanted to point out that weapons with good auto aim wouldnt even be that strong, when mesa exists. also, Kunai incarnon exists too. Spoiler Edited November 4, 2023 by (NSW)Royal_Elf_Mika Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiltskillet Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 I don't have Diplos, but Sepulcrum is fun as hell. One of my 3 favorite sidearms. Its lock-in mode is much better suited to slower play...and afaic, that's fine. There are some improvements I've always wanted for it. The only significant one is that locking on fewer than the max targets should concentrate its firepower rather than reducing it. That would be a situational increase to the speed of its gameplay, but not the main point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDystopiaI Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 Making the Diplos toggle modes with alt-fire would do a lot to make it feel less clunky, or make it similar to the Euphona where the alt-fire button is also its own distinct fire mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PollexMessier Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 Have them work more like the smart riffle in Deep Rock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Mastermitchel89 Posted November 4, 2023 Author Share Posted November 4, 2023 5 hours ago, (XBOX)Mastermitchel89 said: Increase the reticle targeting/ Lock-on radius -Like Mesa, I am completely unsure if you guys are reading the same sentence as i am A Mesa 4 Reticle that increases the reticle range/ radius that a Lock-on can Lock onto enemies, so that one doesn't have to aim Directly on the enemy to Lock-on 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PollexMessier Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, (XBOX)Mastermitchel89 said: I am completely unsure if you guys are reading the same sentence as i am A Mesa 4 Reticle that increases the reticle range/ radius that a Lock-on can Lock onto enemies, so that one doesn't have to aim Directly on the enemy to Lock-on 2:07-2:47. woulda made it a clip but the option's missing. Spoiler Edited November 4, 2023 by PollexMessier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Mastermitchel89 Posted November 7, 2023 Author Share Posted November 7, 2023 On 2023-11-04 at 7:56 PM, PollexMessier said: 2:07-2:47. Basically like that so yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred_Avant_2019 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 Sepulcrum is fine honestly. Tenet Diplos just felt like worse dubbastubbas. They pack a hell of a punch, but for someone that loves to aim down sights, the aimbot usually just gets in the way. Which is kind of counter productive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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