Lunamaniac Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 I'm looking forward to Loki Prime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brimir Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 I too hope that the trend of making Primes faster than regulars continue. But it might just have been a one-time thing considering how slow Rhino is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkLizalfos Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 Then we find out Loki Prime's "trait" is having Excalibur's stats and the saddest day begins anew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarash2110 Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 I too hope that the trend of making Primes faster than regulars continue. But it might just have been a one-time thing considering how slow Rhino is... frost is slower, but he only got another freaking D, sounds weird but i think he'd prefer a speed boost over the D, he doesn't want the D! Ok? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron1357 Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 frost is slower, but he only got another freaking D, sounds weird but i think he'd prefer a speed boost over the D, he doesn't want the D! Ok? i cant stop laughing at this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brimir Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 frost is slower, but he only got another freaking D, sounds weird but i think he'd prefer a speed boost over the D, he doesn't want the D! Ok? Because Frost Prime is oooooooooooooooold. Rhino Prime is apparently the hip new generation of Primes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skaleek Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 Rhino prime is the same speed as rhino. Rhino with vanguard helmet is the fourth fastest frame if im not mistaken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunamaniac Posted March 9, 2014 Author Share Posted March 9, 2014 Rhino prime is the same speed as rhino. Rhino with vanguard helmet is the fourth fastest frame if im not mistaken. Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brimir Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 (edited) Rhino prime is the same speed as rhino. Rhino with vanguard helmet is the fourth fastest frame if im not mistaken. Rhino Classic: 0.9 Speed Rhino prime: 1.0 Speed Might not seem like much, but consider that Loki is 1.25 so 0.1 difference might be noticeable. Edited March 9, 2014 by Brimir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegetableBasket Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 Rhino charge with max duration is the fastest thing in the game. Try it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skaleek Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 Then it's probably an oversight, i'd expect a fix soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunamaniac Posted March 9, 2014 Author Share Posted March 9, 2014 Rhino charge with max duration is the fastest thing in the game. Try it. Other than Zephyr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 Other than Zephyr. ^This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegetableBasket Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 (edited) Other than Zephyr. I'll race you in t3 cap bro. No seriously if you haven't done the max duration rhino build you don't even know. Zephyr is pretty fast but the animation is too long so when you hit a wall you waste a lot of time waiting for the animation to end. She's also slower run speed when you need to turn a corner between charges. She's better for some rooms but not most. Edited March 9, 2014 by VegetableBasket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulzscha Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 Moved to the proper section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ObviousLee Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 I'll race you in t3 cap bro. No seriously if you haven't done the max duration rhino build you don't even know. Zephyr is pretty fast but the animation is too long so when you hit a wall you waste a lot of time waiting for the animation to end. She's also slower run speed when you need to turn a corner between charges. She's better for some rooms but not most. fleeting expertise changes that. you get about 3-5 air time, which might be on par with a rhino vanguard rush build, but i'd have to test it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePresident777 Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 All the Warframes should move at 1.5 speed. No place for slow and clunky in fast and fluid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monolake Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 (edited) I'll race you in t3 cap bro. No seriously if you haven't done the max duration rhino build you don't even know. Zephyr is pretty fast but the animation is too long so when you hit a wall you waste a lot of time waiting for the animation to end. She's also slower run speed when you need to turn a corner between charges. She's better for some rooms but not most. Zeph can fly upwards so she beats Rhino in a typical void map. In a horizontal race Rhino is the fastest. Its pretty hilarious to charge from one point to another in that large open interception map. Edited March 10, 2014 by Monolake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vitalidad Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 I don't see what is wrong with that? Loki would still be technically faster, his base speed is still faster. Add mods for both, and Loki should come on top for a straight up drag race. Even if they are very close, I do not see how it is bad to have more than a single frame with top speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monolake Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 I don't see what is wrong with that? Loki would still be technically faster, his base speed is still faster. Add mods for both, and Loki should come on top for a straight up drag race. Even if they are very close, I do not see how it is bad to have more than a single frame with top speed. then Loki should have as much tanking and damage abilities as Rhino, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keltik0ne Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 You get the idea that Rhino Prime is an apology for the mess that was Ember Prime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vitalidad Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 then Loki should have as much tanking and damage abilities as Rhino, right? yes. He does already anyway. Rhino takes great amounts of damage, Loki avoids great amounts of damage. You put them both in same rooms with same enemies each, they will make it out. Only difference is how they go through it. One Melees his way out, the other stomps/ shoots it out. They both can do things alone that most of the rest cannot accomplish. To me they are somewhat close to each other along with Nova. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatpig84 Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 (edited) I don't see what is wrong with that? Loki would still be technically faster, his base speed is still faster. Add mods for both, and Loki should come on top for a straight up drag race. Even if they are very close, I do not see how it is bad to have more than a single frame with top speed. Loki = 1.25 Rhino Prime + Vanguard = 1.25 (-5% damage) Add rush. Loki and Rhino Prime will move equally at the same speed. And Loki's helms all affect his durability in one way (essence less armor, swindle less hp). So..... Edited March 12, 2014 by fatpig84 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revel72 Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 #F1Primeinbound Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monolake Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 yes. He does already anyway. Rhino takes great amounts of damage, Loki avoids great amounts of damage. You put them both in same rooms with same enemies each, they will make it out. Only difference is how they go through it. One Melees his way out, the other stomps/ shoots it out. They both can do things alone that most of the rest cannot accomplish. To me they are somewhat close to each other along with Nova. I take it, you never played Loki, then look into wiki maybe. Evasion is not the same as durability, he cant tank anything, try running past high level Toxic ancient, napalm fire or get caught in crossfire - dead. No CC immunity either, no damage abilites. Rhino is made good at every role, even best at some, for any type of mission, with absolutely no drawbacks or flaws. Its a bad design that encourages players to use the same frame all the time with no better choice. With the highly annoying unavoidable grineer traps we might all just start playing Rhinos and forget all the other frames, since only Rhino gets a free pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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