Ddublu Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Topic is the question of the day I have. As I cannot figure out exactly what purpose Ash has that is unique to him. His stealth is worse than Loki. And of the remaining three abilities; only two are generally useful, Shuriken spam actually being better than Bladestorm in most respects. So yeah.. what exactly is Ash's role in the game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NovusNiveus Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 I use him for solo. It's nice to have both an escape and damage power on my bar.He's probably not the best for solo, but I find he gives me the best solo experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueQuail Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 To remind people that real frames exist and Loki Sempai will never notice her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-HAKUNA-YOUR-TATAS- Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 NINJA. That is all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoopStricken Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Topic is the question of the day I have. As I cannot figure out exactly what purpose Ash has that is unique to him. Having a hilariously poor Noble stance, unless he's not holding a weapon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brahmastra Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 b edgy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IANOBW Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Direct damage output/stall-support is what I tend to view him as. If he had Loki's invisibility there would be no point to Loki. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deidaku Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Ash? : Offensive support , Distraction he's the rogue lone wolf I guess..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksolgamer Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Being stylish! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HillsAndTheSea Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 (edited) ideally, he would be a cross between loki, excalibur, and valkyr a somewhat stealth based melee oriented lightning bruiser unfortunately, he suffers from, "his abilites dont work well on enemies level 100 so he is useless" syndrome Edited March 12, 2014 by HillsAndTheSea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aka_Miso Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 (edited) his role is to throw flour at everyone, "Granny's-Stolen-Cooki-Flour-Oh-God-It's-In-My-Pants bomb" http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:309702 source Edited March 12, 2014 by Sasoka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KONAir Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 (edited) Ashsrole is quick take downs, but falls shart of it in late game. Edited March 12, 2014 by KONAir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoboDoge Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Too be useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-HAKUNA-YOUR-TATAS- Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Direct damage output/stall-support is what I tend to view him as. If he had Loki's invisibility there would be no point to Loki. I disagree. If he had the same duration of invisibility as Loki, it wouldn't make a huge difference or be a threat to what Loki is. While invisibility is an amazing ability of Loki, decoy and radial disarm are hugely important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ddublu Posted March 12, 2014 Author Share Posted March 12, 2014 Oh gawd I feel like I asked somthing in /2 of World of Warcraft. (for those that don't know, when you ask something there you get lots of trollish replies.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NlGHTSHAD3 Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Tbh Ash is weird i have built him twice and sold him both times... i got tired of him... in my opinion Loki is alot better (and more stylish) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LascarCapable Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Ash's role ? House plant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoboDoge Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 I disagree. If he had the same duration of invisibility as Loki, it wouldn't make a huge difference or be a threat to what Loki is. While invisibility is an amazing ability of Loki, decoy and radial disarm are hugely important. Agree. If you center Loki just around Invisibility, you are missing his purpose. He is master of deception and should be used creatively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deaths.Reap3r Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Mastery Points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ddublu Posted March 12, 2014 Author Share Posted March 12, 2014 (edited) I disagree. If he had the same duration of invisibility as Loki, it wouldn't make a huge difference or be a threat to what Loki is. While invisibility is an amazing ability of Loki, decoy and radial disarm are hugely important. Yeah on a different thread where i asked about Ash vs Loki. A guy said pretty much the same thing bout Loki. Like he can use his Decoy and Radial Disarm to gather dudes together; and then stealth sweep them all xD. Moreover; I've always enjoyed Ash. He was like the first warframe that I aimed to attain back when I started the game. His style appealed to me mostly because he was a stealthy... kinda warframe. However, he's been gathering dust on my warframe shelf as of late; due to not needing him for the most part; or simply not being able to really enjoy him anymore. To guide this discussion in a slight tangent; what would you change about Ash to make him more viable as hell.. the TRUE Ninja Warframe? Edited March 12, 2014 by Ddublu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IANOBW Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 I disagree. If he had the same duration of invisibility as Loki, it wouldn't make a huge difference or be a threat to what Loki is. While invisibility is an amazing ability of Loki, decoy and radial disarm are hugely important. That strikes me as a bit unlikely. Loki would need buffs elsewhere to compensate for his lack of use, trust me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)LUCKY_JOEL Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 I see Ash's role being specifically used as a Ninja, a ninja-ninja. Plus, he is a stealth combat character anyways. I haven't used him yet personally to figure this out but at a point I will be and see if I like him or not. Just like how I felt about Trinity until I knew what to use Link and Energy Vampire for. Felt like a Rhino all the time with Trinity. So Ash is something I'm wanting to play as for some time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey1779 Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Ash has no team abilities and is a stealth assassin, as such has very little use in a multiplayer space ninja game except for solo farming resources or trying to get all your codex scans. In a recent forum poll Ash and Banshee lead the way in under powered, seldom played, and in greatest need to an overhaul. Check out and do the poll, you maybe surprised by some of the results. https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1HO8CGUd1eEHfr44-VJCi_1Ccb46cpxyFPSfB2R4-K-k/viewform?pli=1&edit_requested=true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentCynic Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Ash is a nice frame for soloing, really. He doesn't fit with the meta of Endless Boredom or long Survival runs, but his survivability is nice, and he's got an okay kit for a baseline solo runner. He's one of the few frames that actually sticks to the whole 'ninja' part of Warframe's theme. Other than that, he's outclassed in terms of damage, mobility and tankiness, really. A pity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathMavrik Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Ash is supposed to be that frame do you not know what THAT frame is? No? okay ill tell you. Ash is a warframe has little to do with stealth and more to do with using the temporary stealth to do as much damage as physically possible in the amount of time it takes you to understand that its the grineer. His stealth is only a formality to those who know him as they DON'T want to see this reaper coming. his only purpose in this game is to kill, not support anyone else, just kill everything he can. If he goes invisible: you better run If he is running toward you: you better run If he chopped off you legs: grow sum more and run faster because if you are on his list of stuff to ruk up that day.... you better run that weak-sauce a** to the next cryopod and hope that when you awaken he isn't waiting.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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