Deidaku Posted April 30, 2014 Author Share Posted April 30, 2014 I see no reason to tell the OP to GOML. But yes, I agree with your ideas. Excalibur is in a funny spot where he has one exceptional ability, one interesting movement skill, but his 2 dmg skills don't scale well for high lvl play. -Jin Agreed Jin , I think Nyx also suffers from bad damage scaling with psychic bolts (+the skill is very usless at higher levels) I just rebuilt my excal just for melee 2.0 btw it's like being a newbie again.....with a soma Darka prime and marelok XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaumatos Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 Get out. Go ahead and suggest an alternate 3, but don't you dare suggest that Super Jump be removed. Nobody's touching my Super Jump. Man so many scrubs with a rocket in their pocket for SJ. Amazing. Make it a 'general' skill and give xcal something that better players have use of plz... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaumatos Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 (edited) I see no reason to tell the OP to GOML. But yes, I agree with your ideas. Excalibur is in a funny spot where he has one exceptional ability, one interesting movement skill, but his 2 dmg skills don't scale well for high lvl play. -Jin If Slash Dash had its damage output multiplied off the combo counter it'd be a very powerful damage skill. Alas, xcal prime is Founders exclusive...I'd be surprised if we actually saw anything interesting happen to him. Edited April 30, 2014 by Thaumatos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jin_Lightning Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 Agreed Jin , I think Nyx also suffers from bad damage scaling with psychic bolts (+the skill is very usless at higher levels) I just rebuilt my excal just for melee 2.0 btw it's like being a newbie again.....with a soma Darka prime and marelok XD I Had a suggestion for Nyx's Psychic Bolts a while back, but it was buried under "____ is OP!" style posts. I might repost it, just to see it people like it. But yes, Excalibur is alot of fun, even if my 1 and 4 aren't up to par. -Jin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradoxbomb Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 (edited) More stamina is a good idea after all he is kind of the "scout frame" I always thought Loki was supposed to be the "scout" frame (what with having the lowest health and shields of all the frames) but then again I suppose neither him nor Excalibur are bound to any one particular role. Either way Excalibur having some extra stamina is definitely justified since he has a melee theme and honestly he is a bit mediocre in terms of movement speed. Get out. Go ahead and suggest an alternate 3, but don't you dare suggest that Super Jump be removed. Nobody's touching my Super Jump. They shouldn't remove Super Jump, but I would like to see it improved. Make it possible to use it in mid air so you can use it to double-jump (or maybe even multi-jump). And make it so that if you use it mid wall run, you get a massive boost in jumping distance (vertical boost if running up the wall, horizontal if running along it). Oh, and remove that "power in use" delay when you use it, Super Jump + Slash Dash could make for a great poor man's Tailwind if it weren't for that annoying delay. Edited April 30, 2014 by Paradoxbomb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jin_Lightning Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 Oh, and remove that "power in use" delay when you use it, Super Jump + Slash Dash could make for a great poor man's Tailwind if it weren't for that annoying delay. I'd like to have a Tail Wind-style option for this ability. Using Super Jump while on the ground would do what it does now. Using it while sprinting would make you leap forward instead of straight up. How's that? -Jin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradoxbomb Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 I'd like to have a Tail Wind-style option for this ability. Using Super Jump while on the ground would do what it does now. Using it while sprinting would make you leap forward instead of straight up. How's that? -Jin I wouldn't mind a bit more forward momentum when using it while running/sprinting. May not be too much of an issue though if they removed that delay and made those skills easier to combo, but it would still be nice for those mid-length jumps that don't require a full blown Slash Dash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jin_Lightning Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 I wouldn't mind a bit more forward momentum when using it while running/sprinting. May not be too much of an issue though if they removed that delay and made those skills easier to combo, but it would still be nice for those mid-length jumps that don't require a full blown Slash Dash. Yeah, exactly. My idea would help conserve energy for combat, rather than rushing. Super Jump is a good ability, and I'd love to see it have this change. -Jin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deidaku Posted May 1, 2014 Author Share Posted May 1, 2014 I'd like to have a Tail Wind-style option for this ability. Using Super Jump while on the ground would do what it does now. Using it while sprinting would make you leap forward instead of straight up. How's that? -Jin super leap. that would be nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaskadar Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 With the suggestions provided and the ones in my original post, Excalibur would become a far more versatile and mobile Warframe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tris1 Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 They shouldn't remove Super Jump, but I would like to see it improved. Make it possible to use it in mid air so you can use it to double-jump (or maybe even multi-jump). And make it so that if you use it mid wall run, you get a massive boost in jumping distance (vertical boost if running up the wall, horizontal if running along it). what about if they put the heavy impact into super jump that knocks down the targets and does damage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackraver Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Ive been maining Excalibur after I level any new frame. He could definitely use some more stamina since he is rather slow for an all rounder frame IMO. With power creep of newer frames his average power level has fallen below average. He has amazing abilities except radial javelin IMO. Slash dash is great movement and invul in a pinch. Super jump is great movement, and radial blind is godlike. Raise your hand and the world stops for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittyDarkling Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Out of curiosity, how would everyone feel about super jump having a secondary use? For instance: - If you aim directly at an enemy and cast super jump, You'll jump to that enemy. Not only will you jump to them, but it'll be considered a "Jump" in game with all the benefits (heavy impact proc, ability to ground slam). - If you're not aiming at an enemy it'll be the classic shoot up into the air that it is now. Strength affect jump height Range affects how far Excal can jump. This would make him more of a melee frame as he could close the distance between enemies, but at the same time he still has that slower "fighter" feel over Ash's teleporty ninja feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tris1 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Out of curiosity, how would everyone feel about super jump having a secondary use? For instance: - If you aim directly at an enemy and cast super jump, You'll jump to that enemy. Not only will you jump to them, but it'll be considered a "Jump" in game with all the benefits (heavy impact proc, ability to ground slam). - If you're not aiming at an enemy it'll be the classic shoot up into the air that it is now. Strength affect jump height Range affects how far Excal can jump. This would make him more of a melee frame as he could close the distance between enemies, but at the same time he still has that slower "fighter" feel over Ash's teleporty ninja feel. Give it your suggestion but add the heavy impact inate to normal superjump just going in the air when lands sends enemys flying outwards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joyfulmama Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 Excalibur's slash dash/radial jav skills should have their damage scale according to the currently equipped melee weapon (like Hysteria's claws) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkmoone1 Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 His name is Excalibur because his abilities are all sword-based. Even his Javelins look like Skanas. And his Super Jump? :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brygfjeld Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 I feel like Excalibur should be more of an in-your-face swordsman than he is. Closer to Valkyr, without becoming too similar. I just feel like he doesn't do anything that one of the other frames can't do better.I usually try Excal/ExcalPrime every now and then, thinking it can't be as bad as I remember, and every time it is. The only ability that is where it should be is Blind, in my opinion. Radial Javelin gives me the impression that it should be used from within a pack of enemies, but for that to be even remotely viable the cast time has to come down. A lot. Becoming the swordsman/melee ranged fighter I've always thought of him as, he's going to need some more survivability too, I think.Also. Super Jump. What is it even for? All of you guys who use it, what do you use it for / in what situation? I'd actually like to know, cause I have no idea...Most or all (important/meaningful) locations are accessible by any frame anyway, so it's not like you need it to get places, and it's terrible for mobility, as forward momentum is close to none. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archistopheles Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 And his Super Jump? :P Probably filler. I couldn't find any factual reference to the ability. Does Hayden Tenno ever get a super jump in Dark Sector? Maybe it's a carry-over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealPandemonium Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 Stealth attacks suck and 2 already gives SDM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatpig84 Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 (edited) Allowing slash dash build the combo counter is great. And allowing Super Jump to double jump is awesome too. Radial Javelin should have a 100% chance to proc blast, so he knocks everyone down on their &#! even if he doesn't kill them. Unlimited punch through is nice to have on Jav, but that makes him another 4 spamming char no ? :/ Edited May 4, 2014 by fatpig84 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deidaku Posted May 4, 2014 Author Share Posted May 4, 2014 Allowing slash dash build the combo counter is great. And allowing Super Jump to double jump is awesome too. Radial Javelin should have a 100% chance to proc blast, so he knocks everyone down on their &#! even if he doesn't kill them. Unlimited punch through is nice to have on Jav, but that makes him another 4 spamming char no ? :/ Not that much. Excal don't have that much energy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)hawkmoon2020 Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 some one sugested a duplicate style power? that is an awesome idea, especially when hes surrounded, he could create a duplicate of himself to fight in 2 directions at once, only melee attacks allowed for this ability no guns. that would be bad a$$. excalibur is my favorite, i do have frost, hes cool. wow did i just say that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deidaku Posted May 4, 2014 Author Share Posted May 4, 2014 some one sugested a duplicate style power? that is an awesome idea, especially when hes surrounded, he could create a duplicate of himself to fight in 2 directions at once, only melee attacks allowed for this ability no guns. that would be bad a$$. excalibur is my favorite, i do have frost, hes cool. wow did i just say that? So ninja style duplicate? /mirro image ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)hawkmoon2020 Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 yes mirro image! it would have to use all energy so you couldnt use it all the time. has to have some sort of weakness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starender Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 besides radial blind, i see 0 potential in excalibur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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