UndeadGhostWarrior Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 The recource requirement is high aswel aswel the credits required to craft this for a one-time use. The 1800+ conclave requirement is high enough as not every player will be able to build it as yet, but for the players who are, the spector built should at least be given 2 uses if not 3. Unless ofcourse if the Devs are trying to limit it's use so it will be used in high level life or death situations rather than 8 man tenno squads in every second mission you see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Letter13 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 *coughsuperlongdefenseandsurvivalmissionscough* Also I'm pretty sure one of the other good uses would be donating them to your clan/alliance to create specter regiments to defend rails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixty5 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Meh, I may get one or two of them for my clans rail, should we ever decide to deploy it. For all of my personal needs Force Specters shall suffice, especially considering I don't need their help in the first place anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto1398 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Specter* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
achromos Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 I wonder how good they actually are, ai wise.. is it worth it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatpig84 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Meh I don't need their help. I can get a 1800 WF but what for ??! Secondly defending rails with 1 time use machines is kinda silly. It would be a lot better if I just log off as trinity every night and hope some silly fella kills himself via link. Long survivals ? I don't think they can last 45 mins to 1 hr survivals that I am fond of playing, so nope as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrobleme Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Had a phase specter with soma and rhino prime lasted 30 minutes through a t2 survival. Which isn't saying much, but that's all the testing I wanted to do. As they're so expensive to deploy. He used melee once and used iron skin once, everything esle was just blasting away with the soma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynick Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Yer in order to get them to 1800 rating the builds have to be TERRIBLE. I think I'll be staying with force specters with perfect builds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Had a phase specter with soma and rhino prime lasted 30 minutes through a t2 survival. Which isn't saying much, but that's all the testing I wanted to do. As they're so expensive to deploy. He used melee once and used iron skin once, everything esle was just blasting away with the soma. so, they're just as smart as the rail specters before... that's depressing news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 so, they're just as smart as the rail specters before... that's depressing news. actually, i take that back... they can't revive you nor be revived themselves... so they're dumber than rail specters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OniDax Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 They are dumber and weaker. At least the tower spectres block your shots with their melee weapons. These just follow behind you like the sentinels. They don't even use your mod loadout, so I don't understand what the point is for the conclave rating. Is it so hard to have the things actually be copies of you, visually and functionally? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorrogue Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 actually, i take that back... they can't revive you nor be revived themselves... so they're dumber than rail specters. Can a spectra revive another spectre? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UndeadGhostWarrior Posted May 2, 2014 Author Share Posted May 2, 2014 i agree , you should at least be allowed to revive it, if it's down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dochi. Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Can a spectra revive another spectre? I havent tried it yet to use 2 specters at a time, but fairly sure they don't since if one dies they just die like a normal frame dies if he's solo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
low1991 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 (edited) wow, Expensive specter with 1 time use and a dumb AI? cool.. if the AI is equivalent to the rail' specter i might consider building them. Edited May 2, 2014 by low1991 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UndeadGhostWarrior Posted May 2, 2014 Author Share Posted May 2, 2014 I havent tried it yet to use 2 specters at a time, but fairly sure they don't since if one dies they just die like a normal frame dies if he's solo. would u really use 2 cosmic spectors in 1 mission? considering the costs involved for a 1 time use Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cakemaphoneige Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 They can be revived. Maybe they changed it in update 13.2.1 I was reviving mine in a survival i just ran. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Can a spectra revive another spectre? specters in rail missions will attempt to revive each other. player-crafted specters will not attempt to revive players and you can't revive them when they die. you can only deploy a single specter per player, and they don't seem to interact. you can't even spec them to use just a single ability that you want used, and then fill their mod slots with other high-conclave crap. sentinels count towards the specter conclave requirement, and yet specters don't have sentinels. the conclave rating is just an arbitrary number they pulled out of their butts. why do they roll out such poorly executed crap to the players beta testers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tengu-musume Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 *coughsuperlongdefenseandsurvivalmissionscough* Also I'm pretty sure one of the other good uses would be donating them to your clan/alliance to create specter regiments to defend rails. Rails, maybe. But I don't think the 100,000 credits cosmic specters can come close to paying for itself in any T3 void defense or survival mission unless you go to an extremely high wave/min... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UndeadGhostWarrior Posted May 2, 2014 Author Share Posted May 2, 2014 Rails, maybe. But I don't think the 100,000 credits cosmic specters can come close to paying for itself in any T3 void defense or survival mission unless you go to an extremely high wave/min... True although if the spectors do not use your load outs with the mods u have used they might die rather quickly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
low1991 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 (edited) True although if the spectors do not use your load outs with the mods u have used they might die rather quickly problem is. for these specter are used for rail' defense, with these OP mods. attacking rails isn't any more fun. on the bright side, u have your own AI with modded weapons & ability for non-conflict mission. atm, i'm sure mod do not affect specter, so they fits the rail' defend BUT if DE make it so specter are affected by mods only in non-conflict mission, while mod-less in defending rail. it will be the best patch ever. Edited May 2, 2014 by low1991 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UndeadGhostWarrior Posted May 2, 2014 Author Share Posted May 2, 2014 problem is. for these specter are used for rail' defense, with these OP mods. attacking rails isn't any more fun. on the bright side, u have your own AI with modded weapons & ability for non-conflict mission. atm, i'm sure mod do not affect specter, so they fits the rail' defend BUT if DE make it so specter are affected by mods only in non-conflict mission, while mod-less in defending rail. it will be the best patch ever. it might be fun though fighting a cosmic spector squad , although not so much for the lower ranks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syle Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 lokimasterace says there is no difference fighting cosmic or phase spectre they are both paper towels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UndeadGhostWarrior Posted May 2, 2014 Author Share Posted May 2, 2014 lokimasterace says there is no difference fighting cosmic or phase spectre they are both paper towels lol to high ranks yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shusuke-Syndicate Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 (edited) Might be off topic. During Conflict most just rush the mission to end it quickly and to get the battle pay. In order for the cost on Specters to be worth crafting let alone, the research they need to be effected by the mods of said player regardless of type. It might slow down the progress of some attacking / rushing the node in conflict (During Dark Sector Conflict). Right now has it stands, the system in place needs some overhauls and we need to give DE feedback. Ways to improve Specters. Have it clone stats + mods in use currently Not spam but use skills more often If staying with 1 time use have 2 types, 1 for the player only (companion), 1 for Clan / Alliance Rail Only. For player only companion Specter lower cost some if remaining with 1 time only. Let us at least revive them during mission Edited May 2, 2014 by Annoukie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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