Firefly9715 Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 lol I can see Volt as a useful frame but then again he's a one trick pony for the corpus. Zephyr is probably on the lower end of the usefulness spectrum along with oberon and excalibur. Volt has mass stun abilities and good utilities, he is not a one trick pony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flamed Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 I can see why some people don't like him since he doesnt have any damage abilities and he is also fragile. He may be able to disarm his enemies but they can still fight melee. One mistake with him and you can go down because of his low health and shields. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zavienh5 Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 ash coveres the CC with blade storm and smoke screen, but hes missing decoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aggh Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 Well faster frames copter faster, so with strength volt you copter insanely fast, but rhino charge and tailwind with duration go about as fast so it's whatever you can control better. Also the Kamas, amphis, and scoliac are just as fast as the zorens. If you're trying to go fast you may as well go as fast as possible, right? And that's situational if you want the enemies to run at the objective. I've had missions where the disarmed enemies beat the hell out of the pod and we failed, haha, but I know what you mean. The difference in speed between most frames is negligible, power strength volt is overkill if you have to cover any short distances between coptering jumps. Zorens have a higher crit rate so they let you stack up berserker to full effect faster. That's only an issue if you don't have good enough gear for the mission you're running :| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beas7ie Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 I love my Rhino Prime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Ew_Tux Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 Finally, someone who realizes that Volt is good. Volt is one of my favourite frames. Personally, I pick frames based on scenario and match type that is being played. Defense against corpus? Volt Capture mission? Loki Survival? Rhino / Nova / Saryn I think each frame has it's strength and weaknesses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firefly9715 Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 Volt is one of my favourite frames. Personally, I pick frames based on scenario and match type that is being played. Defense against corpus? Volt Capture mission? Loki Survival? Rhino / Nova / Saryn I think each frame has it's strength and weaknesses. I know that but a lot off the time when I use my Volt people say that hes bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naftal Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 Invisibility is great but Radial Disarm is the reason Loki is master race. For all factions but infested, and except for the few melee units there, it disables ALL of their powers and takes ranged weapons away. Then they are just infested except slower and without their special powers. It also stuns all affected targets for couple of seconds. It even stuns already disarmed targets again. That makes the ability ridiculously good cc. In my opinion the stun shouldn't happen again on already disarmed enemies. Decoy can be used to group the targets and/or melee jump attacks are good way to cc them when they are close in numbers. You can easily just melee them from there even without invisibility or however you want to kill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangeless Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 ... I am going for the latter and gonna say Loki is the worst Warframe ever and will never get a prime because the Orokin budget did not take into account bottom-grade Warframes like Loki. ... and I am just sayin' that because I am afraid Loki will get nerfed next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapnFusterCluck Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 (edited) It's the player behind the frame, not the frame itself. For all we know, we can call a Nova player "good" because all he/she does is mash 4 all the time. Same goes for pretty much all the other frames. Ash is much more useful, in my opinion. It's my opinion. Loki is also good, but... just not on par with Ash with my tastes. But then again, they are two different frames and not to be compared with each other. All Frames have their individual strengths, and it's up to the player on how they want to build and use those individual strengths. Edited May 26, 2014 by ikillyou8196 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)vicious1024 Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 (edited) The stigma generated by half-joking, master race comments make it difficult to see how much potential he actually has. As mentioned before, his abilities scale very well with "endgame" content. Though, he definitely has some of the best utility options, I don't feel Loki is the best Warframe. Edited May 26, 2014 by (PS4)vicious1024 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Joshuaalt Posted May 26, 2014 Author Share Posted May 26, 2014 I would LOVE a Loki Prime. I was able to get through 25 minutes of playing a Tower III Survival while playing solo the other day and don't think I would be able to do that with any other Warframe. Currently my Loki has 2 Forma and Energy Siphon Invisibility Decoy Narrow Minded Continuity Constitution Streamline Flow Enemy Sense Rush All at Max Rank But am now thinking that I will make an different loadout on Slot B that uses Radial Disarm and take off Narrow Minded. Don't get me wrong I also love Rhino Frost Ash And I am making Oberon which will be done on Wednesday at 1am Not sure who I want next Nekro Nyx Saryn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ritchel Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 AYYY U ALL HUSHH!! they might nerf loki's radial disarm to have durashunn too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shut Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 (edited) I don't understand why some people like Loki so much. Sure you can make every mission infested only, but meh... that's just too boring! As a Loki main, I agree with this entirely. I actually switched over to Ash because of how easy Loki made everything... Contrary to popular belief, Loki doesn't require skill to play at all. Tapping 4, 1, 2, and EEEEEEEEE in a sequence isn't exactly mind-bogglingly difficult or creative after you do it the first couple times. Edited May 26, 2014 by SortaRandom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orbister Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 Well faster frames copter faster, so with strength volt you copter insanely fast, but rhino charge and tailwind with duration go about as fast so it's whatever you can control better. Also the Kamas, amphis, and scoliac are just as fast as the zorens. If you're trying to go fast you may as well go as fast as possible, right? And that's situational if you want the enemies to run at the objective. I've had missions where the disarmed enemies beat the hell out of the pod and we failed, haha, but I know what you mean. how do faster frames "copter" faster, coptering depends on the melee weapon speed, not the frame's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixty5 Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 Lol invis scrub. Learn to proki my friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MerelyARumor Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 Loki OP Need Nerf Plz DE nerf it into the ground right as you release Loki Prime just for an added slap to the face. lol and they will give loki prime all of lokis pre nerf abilities Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scherhardt Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 I don't use radial disarm because of my maxed Narrow Minded but it is great for melee XP. I do love crowed control though, only thing LOKI is missing. This is so wrooong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awazx Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 (edited) Nerf detecting in 3, 2, 1... Edited May 26, 2014 by Awazx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deidaku Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 This is so wrooong. Yep he doesn't make any sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulzscha Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 Moved to the proper section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unibot Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 I don't like this thread. BTW decoy does not scale to high level content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juranai Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 Lets stop calling loki the god of warframes before someone begins calling for a nerf =) I really don't feel like formaing him a seconds time just because some nerf forced me to change my mod build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonkingdx Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 (edited) Lets stop calling loki the god of warframes before someone begins calling for a nerf =) I really don't feel like formaing him a seconds time just because some nerf forced me to change my mod build Its already been called for like 500 times already before this thread lol. The OP just proves the point that many loki users just rely on invis for everything rather than using all the skills for their uses. Even more so it shows by more threads that RD needs a tweak as well. (nerf is just another word for balance just like buff, just nerf is more fun to say because fanboys of the frame go crazy over that word) Edited May 26, 2014 by dragonkingdx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juranai Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 Its already been called for like 500 times already before this thread lol. The OP just proves the point that many loki users just rely on invis for everything rather than using all the skills for their uses. Even more so it shows by more threads that RD needs a tweak as well. (nerf is just another word for balance just like buff, just nerf is more fun to say because fanboys of the frame go crazy over that word) Invisibility at 28 seconds since I like radial disarm and all of the other abilities to much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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