OrphanMaker Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 (edited) Anyone besides me think we need a Ninjato weapon. I mean we do have katana but we are ninjas not samurai so it would only be right we had Ninjato. WORN ON BACK! JAPANESE MUSEUM OF NINJA - "for disclaimers of the ninjato which is nothing but a straight version of the katana." The museum is in Iga a famous place in japan for the ninja that was there. They were slaughter by the samurai. Below Video about Iga history. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pw0bfegFfJw NAME: JINATO STATS Impact 2.5 Puncture 15 Slash 25 Crit Chance 30% Crit Damage 2.0 Status 15% Attack Speed 1.1 NAME: TIGER JINATO STATS Impact 5 Puncture 25 Slash 35 Crit Chance 50% Crit Damage 2.5x Status 20% Attack Speed 1.3 The Jinato is the counterpart to the Nikana. The Jinato offers fast lethal hits with a jumping spinning flip finisher that make the tenno a spinning saw of death. The blade have embedded incantations for enhanced elemental abilities. Only the most mystical of ninja may wield it. This weapon is designed with speed and critical hits in mind so it is less powerful than the nikana and dragon nikana but makes it up in speed and critical hits. I changed the design from a status weapon to a critical weapon, so in essence this is a shorter less damage but faster nikana. Plz comment I may change stats.. ** If you like this post please read my other. https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/254934-grineer-return-of-the-sawman-and-stealth-grineer/ Edited July 2, 2014 by OrphanMaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrayFox Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Hmm if we're going with the ninja theme I'd rather have a 25% crit chance than a 60% status chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Un1337ninj4 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 (edited) 60%..... what Status over crit is my preferred build too, but 60% base is quite insane. Edited July 1, 2014 by Un1337ninj4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surtur Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Crit rate would make more sense compared to status rate, but otherwise please take a plane to DE and give them this idea in person Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sitchrea Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 ^This^ We are Ninjas, not Samurai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edryuu Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 the worst Crit chance ever....and this weapon is a Ninja Tool that does has and should have DPS so i would say it should have a 30% Crit Chance...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdunSaveMe Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 (edited) The ninja theme is a bit stretched already, but this would be kinda cool, I reckon. I don't much care for numbers, personally. It's always nice to have weapons that look cool and are enjoyable to use. Edited July 1, 2014 by AdunSaveMe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaugahn Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Ninjato weren't real things as far as I know, but a short blade like that would be cool. +1 from me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrphanMaker Posted July 1, 2014 Author Share Posted July 1, 2014 60%..... what Status over crit is my preferred build too, but 60% base is quite insane. Yeah I know but this is the only way to justify going with Status over crit because that 2.0x multiplier is insane on the dragon nikana and this is the only way to justify not going the crit route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrphanMaker Posted July 1, 2014 Author Share Posted July 1, 2014 the worst Crit chance ever....and this weapon is a Ninja Tool that does has and should have DPS so i would say it should have a 30% Crit Chance...... I know but this is for diversity. The Nikana is already a raw power crit monster if properly built. I figured I would go the more ninja magic status route. I don't want to make another Nikana that would defeat the purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrphanMaker Posted July 1, 2014 Author Share Posted July 1, 2014 (edited) Ninjato weren't real things as far as I know, but a short blade like that would be cool. +1 from me. Ninjato weren't real things as far as I know, but a short blade like that would be cool. +1 from me. Yes they were. The ninjas were not very rich they where farmers, and villagers. They were not very rich so they had cheap weapons like the straight sword ninjato. They fought against the oppressive samurai whom were rich and powerful. They were not as skilled swords men as the samurai and did not have the expensive armor either, so they would plan sabotage missions and catch the samurari off guard and kill them and when they were caught. throw a smoke bomb to escape.... Hey I should make that a concept. Smoke bomb secondary that stun and blind and do little damage.. New idea right there. Edited July 1, 2014 by OrphanMaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValhaHazred Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Yes they were. The ninjas were not very rich they where farmers, and villagers. They were not very rich so they had cheap weapons like the straight sword ninjato. They fought against the oppressive samurai whom were rich and powerful. They were not as skilled swords men as the samurai and did not have the expensive armor either, so they would plan sabotage missions and catch the samurari off guard and kill them and when they were caught. throw a smoke bomb to escape.... Hey I should make that a concept. Smoke bomb secondary that stun and blind and do little damage.. New idea right there. That's BS. Ninja where dedicated spies, scouts and assassins. They didn't fight against the Samurai for anti-oppressive reasons, they fought against them at the pay of rival noble groups. A Ninja is a mercenary spy and assassin employed because they didn't follow the same sense of decorum that Samurai did. Think of it in the modern sense of a Standing army vs. Special Ops. There is no historical evidence of Ninjato existing. Ninja did use swords but they where just Wakazashi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrphanMaker Posted July 1, 2014 Author Share Posted July 1, 2014 (edited) That's BS. Ninja where dedicated spies, scouts and assassins. They didn't fight against the Samurai for anti-oppressive reasons, they fought against them at the pay of rival noble groups. A Ninja is a mercenary spy and assassin employed because they didn't follow the same sense of decorum that Samurai did. Think of it in the modern sense of a Standing army vs. Special Ops. There is no historical evidence of Ninjato existing. Ninja did use swords but they where just Wakazashi. What are you talking about. The Ninjas did start as farmers and simple villagers, I left out the part about them becoming paid spies and assassins later in history. Last the Ninjato was created before the katana. The ninjato is simply the katana before the Japanese learned to put a curve in the weapon. All sword in japan were straight before they became curved for slashing. And last the Ninjato may have been a short, straight, cheap sword, used by the ninja in the 15 century. "That's BS' and fu** you go read a book on Japanese history. Edited July 1, 2014 by OrphanMaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValhaHazred Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 What are you talking about. The Ninjas did start as farmers and simple villagers, I left out the part about them becoming paid spies and assassins later in history. Last the Ninjato was created before the katana. The ninjato is simply the katana before the Japanese learned to put a curve in the weapon. All sword in japan were straight before they became curved for slashing. There weren't Ninja that far back. The term only started to see use around the 15th century when they where already mercenaries. That's still not a Ninjato it's a Chokuto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senketsu_ Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 ^This^ We are Ninjas, not Samurai. ninjas used whatever weapon they could get their hands on at any given moment, So yes Ninjas used Katanas as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValhaHazred Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 ninjas used whatever weapon they could get their hands on at any given moment, So yes Ninjas used Katanas as well. That they did. That includes Chinese bombs and mortars, making people whining about Ninja never using guns really funny to me. If a Ninja could get his hands on a Gorgon he dang well would have used it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senketsu_ Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 What are you talking about. The Ninjas did start as farmers and simple villagers, I left out the part about them becoming paid spies and assassins later in history. Last the Ninjato was created before the katana. The ninjato is simply the katana before the Japanese learned to put a curve in the weapon. All sword in japan were straight before they became curved for slashing. "That's BS' and fu** you go read a book on Japanese history. *facepalm* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katana *facepalms even harder* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ninjat%C5%8D yeah no the Katana came first. You need to get your facts strait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senketsu_ Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 That they did. That includes Chinese bombs and mortars, making people whining about Ninja never using guns really funny to me. If a Ninja could get his hands on a Gorgon he dang well would have used it! I love Japanese culture, Im going to be studying it in College. whitch is one of the reasons I love Warframe, ALL the japanese symbolism :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senketsu_ Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 There weren't Ninja that far back. The term only started to see use around the 15th century when they where already mercenaries. That's still not a Ninjato it's a Chokuto. Shinobi excited pretty far back in Japanese history, they were a pretty pivotal part of japanese history. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ninja Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValhaHazred Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Shinobi excited pretty far back in Japanese history, they were a pretty pivotal part of japanese history. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ninja Lol, read what you just posted. It says right there that they didn't exist in the "modern" sense until the 15th century. There where predecessors sure but they where retroactively labeled Ninja. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrphanMaker Posted July 1, 2014 Author Share Posted July 1, 2014 There weren't Ninja that far back. The term only started to see use around the 15th century when they where already mercenaries. That's still not a Ninjato it's a Chokuto. Sooo... If I put that people would not read it, people don't know that chokuto is. Either way I just want to see a straight ninjato in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrphanMaker Posted July 1, 2014 Author Share Posted July 1, 2014 (edited) Lol, read what you just posted. It says right there that they didn't exist in the "modern" sense until the 15th century. There where predecessors sure but they where retroactively labeled Ninja. Dude... Get off peoples back. We are discussing something no one really know about so quit the arguing and stop being a troll. Not even historian no the truth about the history of the ninja. As far as I know they were just farmer and villagers that hated samurai and sometimes payed by samurai to kill other samura and even at times help samurai to kill other ninjas. Edited July 1, 2014 by OrphanMaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrphanMaker Posted July 1, 2014 Author Share Posted July 1, 2014 *facepalm* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katana *facepalms even harder* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ninjat%C5%8D yeah no the Katana came first. You need to get your facts strait. Facepalm** Really? Great way to express emotions. Anyways don't cite Wikipedia as a means to get your point across. Facepalm** XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValhaHazred Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Sooo... If I put that people would not read it, people don't know that chokuto is. Either way I just want to see a straight ninjato in the game. I wan't even the first to point out that Ninjato don't exist. At least I provided the correct name. Dude... Get off peoples back. We are discussing something no one really know about so quit the arguing and stop being a troll. I'm not being a troll and I'm not trying to argue. I'm trying to help educate. The other person I'm talking with says they want to study Japanese culture in college, so I figured I'd try and help. Why is trying to get people to use the correct terminology and learn a little wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrphanMaker Posted July 1, 2014 Author Share Posted July 1, 2014 (edited) I wan't even the first to point out that Ninjato don't exist. At least I provided the correct name. I'm not being a troll and I'm not trying to argue. I'm trying to help educate. The other person I'm talking with says they want to study Japanese culture in college, so I figured I'd try and help. Why is trying to get people to use the correct terminology and learn a little wrong? No... Your just being a troll know it all. Help educate about Japanese culture? From what! Wikipedia? Bull!!!! Yelp, Im going to help educate you dumb people with wikipedia. Edited July 1, 2014 by OrphanMaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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