SIDESTRE4M Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 To add another problem: Even if we veterans make a noob account, we would exactly know what to do, where to look, how to mod. Beginners don't know about that. They just try to do the star map and are probably surprised why they neither have credits, nor mods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grulos Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Vital mods should be put on common enemies in early planets... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASH_PRIME Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 That IS brutal bro... RNG has not been kind to You!Quick advice? Get a 'Taxi' to Xini, group up with a team and farm that place for a few hours... the mods there will flow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikaponi Posted July 1, 2014 Author Share Posted July 1, 2014 To add another problem: Even if we veterans make a noob account, we would exactly know what to do, where to look, how to mod. Beginners don't know about that. They just try to do the star map and are probably surprised why they neither have credits, nor mods. I wish DE brought a boss back to Earth who drops Oberon parts. Oberon was such a nice frame for beginners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikaponi Posted July 1, 2014 Author Share Posted July 1, 2014 (edited) That IS brutal bro... RNG has not been kind to You! Quick advice? Get a 'Taxi' to Xini, group up with a team and farm that place for a few hours... the mods there will flow! I don't want to leech in high-level missions, I want to be able to do something myself as well. Edited July 1, 2014 by Taikaponi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIDESTRE4M Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 (edited) I wish DE brought a boss back to Earth who drops Oberon parts. Oberon was such a nice frame for beginners. Whom they couldn't craft anyways, or maybe reach first. Beeing new to the game really is a pain. I remember those times, when we needed Slash dash to kill Ancients on Mercury and Toxics still killed after death with their cloud. We throw a party when we got a cold mod and those today-puncture mods, so we could bypass the armor and slow enemies because they won't die the first shot. I helped a friend a while ago and did mercury with him. Wow.. after two nodes or so, you meet bombards in a regular mission. That's hefty. Edited July 1, 2014 by SIDESTRE4M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikaponi Posted July 1, 2014 Author Share Posted July 1, 2014 Whom they couldn't craft anyways, or maybe reach first. Beeing new to the game really is a pain. I remember those times, when we needed Slash dash to kill Ancients on Mercury and Toxics still killed after death with their cloud. We throw a party when we got a cold mod and those today-puncture mods, so we could bypass the armor and slow enemies because they won't die the first shot. I helped a friend a while ago and did mercury with him. Wow.. after two nodes or so, you meet bombards in a regular mission. That's hefty. Oberon isn't that expensive, the only problem would be collecting the Control Module. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
izzatuw Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Oberon isn't that expensive, the only problem would be collecting the Control Module. Control modules no. Neural Sensors yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikaponi Posted July 1, 2014 Author Share Posted July 1, 2014 (edited) Control modules no. Neural Sensors yes. Control Modules are hard to get for a new player. I'm pretty damn sure that a newbie won't know what Void is and new players have no chance fighting the Hyena Pack. Jupiter has much lower level enemies than Neptune, so Neural Sensors would be easier to get. Edited July 1, 2014 by Taikaponi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)SofeSNBR Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 (edited) Im just wondering what stuff you use if you see magical horses.... cuz i want some :D Fun fact: i got serration in about 25hrs in game. hornet strike even later than that(now i have about 80hrs+ in). So i hope their idea for helping new players does work, good thing you did this post cuz i forgot how hard it is for new players to get mods that actually matters in long run. Makes me think twice about them now Edited July 1, 2014 by (PS4)SofeSNBR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulzscha Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Thread title edited for clarity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nagisawa Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 8 hours. Does not equal experienced. And this thread is pointless, keep playing the game and keep getting those mods. Complaining about it won't get you anywhere. Excuse me, I can't breath. Man, that was hilarious. I started a new account, a few months back (and gave it to me cousin) and I managed to reach Saturn. And after about 140 hours on it, I've managed to get ONE Serration, too many Point Blanks (My cousin hates shotguns) and Pressure Points, but literally ZERO Hornet Strikes in over ONE HUNDRED OF TWENTY HOURS OF GRINDING THE RIGHT FACTIONS. The drop rate SUCKS. And yes, 8 hours IS enough to get people to LEAVE the game because they've hit a wall and can't advance because they simply cannot kill stuff fast enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIDESTRE4M Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Second that. All my friends who got to play, got help by me, trading them mods, helping with missions, farming, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azmyth1 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 I did the same thing a few months ago. The only way to get good mods quickly is to finish mercury and play nightmare missions with more experienced players. My "new player" account still doesn't have a hornet strike after 25 hours or so of gameplay, but the Lethal Torrent makes up for that a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psroij Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 8 hours. Does not equal experienced. And this thread is pointless, keep playing the game and keep getting those mods. Complaining about it won't get you anywhere. Not going to point out what everyone else did, instead going to point out that Warframe does not even have 8 hours worth of varied content, so 8 hours is more than enough to be "experienced". If a new player gets carried they can have the entire star chart cleared (for what it is worth) in less than 8 hours. By the time a player has cleared Earth they have seen every mission type Warframe offers multiple times, and yet, unless they are really lucky, will have almost entirely useless mod drops, and not high enough rank to build better weapons. [snip]Still mods are easy as fk to get just play the right faction Mods are easy to get if you know what the right faction is, and are lucky. Unforunately for new players they have no way to know what the right faction is, much less what the right mods are, without going to an outside source like the wiki. Now, this is rather silly of them, but a lot of players happen to think that it should not be a requirement to go to an outside source for information on how to play the game or obtain necessary items to advance. See, usually games are either so well designed that there are no essential mods that rely purely on RNG to advance, or they have the information in game so that players know what to farm. Warframe has neither. Warframe has one of the most obscure and unfriendly newbie experiences in gaming history, where the enjoyability and ease of the new player experience is dependent entirely on RNG or getting carried/charity than it does on the player's skill and ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viverim Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 And to add to the above discussion, even those of us with a few hours of experience behind us (Hiya!), there are mods people will recommend for sticky situations that we don't have (Life Strike... I would be looking at you... if I had you, that is...). I did hear that they are adding beginner mods to the chart for completing quests, and that would be a good thing. But I further agree that there is almost 0 information in the game. Mods may be in the Codex, but in order for me to know where they drop, I have to scan the enemies a few dozen times. Hiding research information behind a game mechanic? Why? Scanning should be fore learning about strengths/weaknesses, and maybe even attack types. Not drops (my opinion). Hopefully the next major update (U14) will help with at least some of this, but the sad thing is that most new players don't even know what they don't know about the system, and have little enough means to find out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)GR13V4NC3 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Those are the only rifle mods I have received on my noob account after 8 hours of game play. I have completed Mercury, Venus, and Earth. I have also unlocked Sedna and farmed Kappa for an hour. If you are strong enough, just farm Apollodorus on Mercury. You can get Lethal Torrent, Serration and bunch of other stuff as long as you can stay alive. As a secondary bonus you will get a good amount of T1 keys which will enable you to get some other high end mods as well. Finally, you will also gain a lot of affinity this way, so always bring 1 unranked/low ranked weapon amongst your equipped arsenal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIDESTRE4M Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Without looking that up first, you have no chance to know. That is the problem. Given, that you aqcuire all the mats and mods somewhere else, you could spend your whole warframe time on appollodorus. Even the first survival will get hard at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikaponi Posted July 2, 2014 Author Share Posted July 2, 2014 Without looking that up first, you have no chance to know. That is the problem. Given, that you aqcuire all the mats and mods somewhere else, you could spend your whole warframe time on appollodorus. Even the first survival will get hard at some point. Good point! Beginners have absolutely no idea where to even start looking for damage mods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latronico Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 No need to give me anything, I'm an experienced player just trying out the new player experience. Back when I started playing this game, any mod could be dropped by any enemy. For example, you could farm Infested for every mod in this game. Now acquiring mods is pain in the @$$, because ''uncommon'' mods like Serration are more rare than actual rare mods. This is partially true. At the beginning, Grineer had an higher chance to drop V mods, Corpus - and Infested D and Ability ones. It was really difficult to farm particular mods just killing tons of enemies from the wrong faction (for example, farming for Serration killing Infested). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awazx Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 It's common knowledge that 95% of the people who post on these forums skim the original post. It is also common knowledge that another high percentage of them will post a scathing, ignorant response and believe themselves to be right. Warframe forums in a nutshell. Right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIDESTRE4M Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 I started playing with a few friends and it was really awful, because they had already invested about 30 hours. It was like beeing super cautious, carefull aiming, taking cover and stuff... they just ran ahead "yay, enemies" - boom. Using abilities was something special. I had to learn it all the "hard" way, reading forums and wiki. But before you grab your tissues to wish away your tears because of my sappy story: This is something veterans tend to forget or douchy people tend to just ignore it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xenapan Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 That IS brutal bro... RNG has not been kind to You! Quick advice? Get a 'Taxi' to Xini, group up with a team and farm that place for a few hours... the mods there will flow! Not true: Chargers: Fusion Core Redirection Regen Rupture Convulsion Fracturing Wind Speed Trigger Chaos Leapers: Decoy Fusion Core Swift Deth Cleanse Infested Energy Vampire Seismic Palm Snow Globe Teleport Runners: Fusion Core Ghost Reach Well Of Life Concussion Rounds Point Blank Sundering Strike Healer: Flame Repellent Fusion Core Lightning Rod Shock Iron Skin Accelerant Seeker Disruptor: Fireball Flechette Fusion Core Redirection Expel Infested Sonar Cleaving Whirlwind Crush Toxic: Fusion Core Organ Shatter Shredder Slip Magazine Warm Coat Fast Deflection Hornet Strike Brutal Tide Firestorm Where do you see serration in that? Farming xini isnt the answer those are the common enemies and none of them drop it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurpadurpusRex Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 DE announced they acknowledge this as a problem, and are producing a better ramp. I would just let this thread die until update 15. Then bring it up if there is no progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardcoreSalmon Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 I was completely carried by friends my first 3 weeks in the game, they got me everything I needed and I literally just ran around picking up mods. Even that was still a massive pain, I definitely wouldn't of carried on playing if I wasn't carried at the start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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