lNogardl Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 (edited) I don't know if this is a bad thing or a good thing, i used to sell the prime parts that i didn't need, now i keep getting keys from all the void keys i do as rewards.. i just did 3 survival 1's for getting a scindo part, and all i kept getting was random keys. From those 3 survivals for around 25 mins each, all i got was 1 part, and it was a Latron part which i already have the latron. I'm entering in despair. Did this latest patch do this? Who thought this was a good idea? Were there people complaining about the lack of keys? I don't get it. Edited September 25, 2014 by Nogard18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archistopheles Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 I'm entering in despair. The next step is Dread, followed by Hate. Tread lightly, young Tenno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--Q--JoeTheBanshee Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 The next step is Dread, followed by Hate. Tread lightly, young Tenno. And then you turn into a stalker and the Lotus starts to give you double missions as punishment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybridon Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 This has been complained over and over, but Sheldon said the drop tables are "ok". Ive just given up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lNogardl Posted September 25, 2014 Author Share Posted September 25, 2014 This has been complained over and over, but Sheldon said the drop tables are "ok". Ive just given up. I don't think they're okay at all.. I'll just wait until the heat of getting these weapons passes then.. Then i'll try to trade for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adaptor-Face Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 the drop tables are fine for all void mission except T3 Exterminate. having 30x mag P chassis', 30x mag p BP's AND 40x sicarus P barrels before anything else drops is not fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelsplight Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 I feel you. I ran an hour in tower 1 Surv and my reward was bout...6 keys, a 2 latron parts, 2 paris parts and I think the rest were cores or cells. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybridon Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Out of curiosity, what keys dropped? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--Q--JoeTheBanshee Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 This has been complained over and over, but Sheldon said the drop tables are "ok". Ive just given up. Look, to an extent, drop tables are perfectly fine. The drop tables will continually suffer from dilution until they start to put more parts in OD or add more game modes to the void. Then there's a side issue; life support drop rates for Infested Survival is still absolutely terrible. The largest issue in my book is drop probability, which to an extent is also perfectly fine. Of course when new primes are released people are going to be upset that they don't get what they want immediately. If you take a step back and observe the overall situation, you'll see only dilution and obscure drop rates. This needs to be addressed, but in a creative and intuitive way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demon-King-Lamb Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Here we go again. Just like last time. People complain about the damn Keys as rewards. Even I complain about it. And those Fusion cores stuffing up my Survival missions. Like dude! If I need Fusion cores I'll go farm for them! I don't want to Grind T1 void just to get another key. What the point of that. I get enough of them in normal missions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lNogardl Posted September 25, 2014 Author Share Posted September 25, 2014 Out of curiosity, what keys dropped? Everything ranging from t1 defenses (they were more common) and t2 captures, as far as i can remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybridon Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Everything ranging from t1 defenses (they were more common) and t2 captures, as far as i can remember. Thats my biggest grudge on these missions. I play a T1 cap and get a T1 Defense as a reward. If I wanted to play a T1 Defense, Id use one of the 40 I already have, Im playing T1 cap cause I want the rewards on it. :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurdyburd Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 This has been complained over and over, but Sheldon said the drop tables are "ok". Ive just given up. Not only that, but this is actually intentional, if you can believe it. During some poll and "looking at the forums", DE noted that players felt 'rewarded' and 'less ripped off' if they received a key as a reward that was 'of equal or higher value'. So they puked all over the drop tables until it was diluted with keys, because that's what the players want! What's that players? You're not happy with this? Nah it's just the flamers and trolls obviously, it couldn't possibly be anyone else for any other reason. Carry on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ailissa Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 The tables do need some work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monolake Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Yep, T1 gives you keys. For me its been 90% of t1 rewards since patch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nayru Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 My sample size has grown, but I don't feel like compiling the results at the moment.More accurate figure seems to be around 85%, down from 89-90%.This is still absolutely horrible when you factor holsters are competing with two receivers and a forma, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrhat.lf Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 I find these drop tables fine. They are an excellent farming method of Keys because no one plays Ceres/Eris/Neptune for Key farming. I just hope the new Excavation game mode will change that. Did you even see how many T1 Keys we got from the event alone? I could imagine that many keys when the gamemode is added. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lNogardl Posted September 25, 2014 Author Share Posted September 25, 2014 I find these drop tables fine. They are an excellent farming method of Keys because no one plays Ceres/Eris/Neptune for Key farming. I just hope the new Excavation game mode will change that. Did you even see how many T1 Keys we got from the event alone? I could imagine that many keys when the gamemode is added. Then i really hope they leave the keys for excavation and prime parts for the void. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhisperByte Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 (edited) He beat me to it :C Curse you I don't think they're okay at all.. I'll just wait until the heat of getting these weapons passes then.. Then i'll try to trade for them. They ARE ok actually. I mean, people get frustrated and buy prime access which means drop table dilution is working as intended Edited September 26, 2014 by WhisperByte Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adaptor-Face Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 you do know the survival C rotation ALWAYS gives prime part right? The handle is in the C rotation, which is at 20, 40, 60, etc min mark, not 5,10,15,25,30,35,45,50,etc mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abenoki Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 (edited) the drop tables are fine for all void mission except T3 Exterminate. having 30x mag P chassis', 30x mag p BP's AND 40x sicarus P barrels before anything else drops is not fun them feels.....i know your pain I got my first loki prime part today though....i farmed for 2 weeks straight and got nothing, then after nyx comes out i get a part....go figure Edited September 26, 2014 by Echoa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsiWarp Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 IMO, they should just add Orokin Caches into Void missions that have a chance to reward keys, instead of putting them as end mission rewards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilum Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 Yeah... the results of running 16 T1 captures = 12 t1-t2 keys, 3 paris prime parts, and 1 boar primes part. We gave up, and went to do a t1 defense for a change of pace and got a hikou prime part after the 4th wave and after 3 more key reward screens.That RNGeezus. Use keys, to get keys, to use keys, to get keys, to use keys, to get keys... *insanity* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead_Rabbits Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 He beat me to it :C Curse you They ARE ok actually. I mean, people get frustrated and buy prime access which means drop table dilution is working as intended From a business stand point, but from a player stand point, not cool. I don't like the fact that we are getting sheckled into buying prime access. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lNogardl Posted September 26, 2014 Author Share Posted September 26, 2014 Now you tell me, after a 40 minute survival 2, i got those things you see at the left side ONLY, PLUS FUSION CORES. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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