Brimir Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Anyone else getting that feeling when they read the description of said Syndicate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaugahn Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 A little. She wants knowledge. The only reason she's interested in preserving things is because if things were destroyed their knowledge would be lost. Of course, the implication there is that once something's knowledge has been acquired, that thing is now meaningless to Suda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsychedelicSnake Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 PRAISE LORD CTHULHU, FOR HE HAS GRACED US WITH A CEPHALON OF HIS CREATION! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maou Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 If SUDA was tangible, I'd probably hug it. And oh, Knowledge is Power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brimir Posted October 21, 2014 Author Share Posted October 21, 2014 Cthulhu is nothing but a mere pawn in the hands of the beings I am thinking of, but I guess a Cthulhu is fine too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zergla Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 My first reaction was "Hermaeus Mora". I suppose the daedric princes fall into the "Lovecraftian" category Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsychedelicSnake Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Cthulhu is nothing but a mere pawn in the hands of the beings I am thinking of, but I guess a Cthulhu is fine too. Cthulhu is all. Cthulhu is, and always will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brimir Posted October 21, 2014 Author Share Posted October 21, 2014 Cthulhu is all. Cthulhu is, and always will be. You realize of course that Cthulhu and his ilk were pretty much lowly slaves to even greater evils? Bohahahaha.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsychedelicSnake Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 You realize of course that Cthulhu and his ilk were pretty much lowly slaves to even greater evils? Bohahahaha.... Cthulhu is a strong old god and he don't need no greater evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brimir Posted October 21, 2014 Author Share Posted October 21, 2014 (edited) Cthulhu is a strong old god and he don't need no greater evil. Long before mankind existed, The Old Ones trod upon the Earth. They worshiped the Elder Gods and served them as slaves. But in time, the Old Ones gained the knowledge of dark magic and dared to use their sinister powers against their masters. The wrath of the elder Gods was merciless and terrible. And those who rebelled against them were banished to distant dimensions and imprisoned deep within the darkest recesses of the Earth. In deathless sleep, the Old Ones dream and lie in wait for the time when they shall rise again. For when the stars come right, they shall awaken from their eon-old slumber. Then shall they return to hold dominion over our world once more, bringing woe and destruction unto mankind. TL;DR - Cthulhu is, relatively speaking, a wimp :) Edited October 21, 2014 by Brimir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaugahn Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Cthulhu is a strong old god and he don't need no greater evil. In terms of cosmic relevance, Cthulhu is no more important than humans. In the end, even beings such as Cthulhu are meaningless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morec0 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 If SUDA was tangible, I'd probably hug it. And oh, Knowledge is Power. Seize him. Xuimma is surrounded and grabbed by Red Veil operatives. Cut his throat. One pulls a knife. Stop. Wait. I've changed my mind, let him go. The Veil operatives back off. Step back three paces, turn around, close your eyes. The operatives obey. Power is power. Sorry, had to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brimir Posted October 21, 2014 Author Share Posted October 21, 2014 In terms of cosmic relevance, Cthulhu is no more important than humans. In the end, even beings such as Cthulhu are meaningless. Hah! Now that's a very proper nihilistic way to put it. Lovecraft would be proud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maou Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Seize him. Xuimma is surrounded and grabbed by Red Veil operatives. Cut his throat. One pulls a knife. Stop. Wait. I've changed my mind, let him go. The Veil operatives back off. Step back three paces, turn around, close your eyes. The operatives obey. Power is power. Sorry, had to. Finally, someone gets it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morec0 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Hah! Now that's a very proper nihilistic way to put it. Lovecraft would be proud. Ironically enough, Lovecraft is the only constant for his stories and the universes they make when you think about it. Finally, someone gets it. If Cantis doesn't have an incredible love for wine now I will be DEEPLY disappointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaugahn Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Hah! Now that's a very proper nihilistic way to put it. Lovecraft would be proud. I'd like to think Lovecraft thought the same way. Some contemporaries I've read think that the only reason he let humans win in The Crooked House and The Dunwich Horror was to show that even beings greater than us are, in the end, just another being. They may exist on a scale greater than our own, or live in the cracks between worlds or whatever, but they'll suffer the same fate as humans eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brimir Posted October 21, 2014 Author Share Posted October 21, 2014 (edited) I'd like to think Lovecraft thought the same way. Oh no doubt. Lovecraft was incredibly nihilistic - especially about the self-righteous importance we humans put on ourselves. In his universe, humans are nothing but ants in the grand scheme of things and the various deities and beings out there might crush us accidentally as we might step on an insect. Which, if you ever think about the vastness and indifference the universe displays towards us, is probably correct. Some contemporaries I've read think that the only reason he let humans win in The Crooked House and The Dunwich Horror was to show that even beings greater than us are, in the end, just another being. They may exist on a scale greater than our own, or live in the cracks between worlds or whatever, but they'll suffer the same fate as humans eventually. Aye, quite a few of the civilizations/species he created are shown in decline. Like the starfish-shaped aliens in Mountains of Madness, or Cthulhu's Ry'leh. Edited October 21, 2014 by Brimir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 So... the talk about Suda suddenly changed into Lovecraft dissussion :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoopStricken Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 So... the talk about Suda suddenly changed into Lovecraft dissussion :D Suddenly? It's in the bloody title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brimir Posted October 21, 2014 Author Share Posted October 21, 2014 So... the talk about Suda suddenly changed into Lovecraft dissussion :D Well, the discussion started with me comparing the "conciousness" behind the Syndicate reminding me of a Lovecraft deity, albeit a benevolent one whereas actual Lovecraft beings are generally either indifferent or outright malevolent towards humanity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloudyDev Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 This thread got weird and philosophical really fast. Also I have nothing to add to this. Bye bye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evanescent Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 It's a SHE?!?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morec0 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 It's a SHE?!?!?! We're about 75% sure it's a she, Suda was very briefly refereed to as female during Devstream 39 and the name sounds feminine as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Not really the impression it gives me, OP. Lovecraftian deities have no use for the knowledge Suda seeks... beings such as Nyarlathothep just are, and it could be argued that they are but avatars of the absolute cosmic destiny. At once, they don't need knowledge and they know all. Nothing can escape the gaze of the burning three-lobed eye. Suda, on the other hand, is a corporeal entity, more-or-less ruled by the same set of rules we mortals must follow. Put in proper scale, when compared to the true cosmic horrors, Suda and us are indistinguishable, utterly irrelevant motes of dust. So you better remember... Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVEOX Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Seize him. Xuimma is surrounded and grabbed by Red Veil operatives. Cut his throat. One pulls a knife. Stop. Wait. I've changed my mind, let him go. The Veil operatives back off. Step back three paces, turn around, close your eyes. The operatives obey. Power is power. Sorry, had to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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