blackflashcannon Posted December 19, 2014 Author Share Posted December 19, 2014 Has key=Not Leech. Doesn't have key=Leech. leeches are those who arent trying to find keys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duch99pl Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 (edited) I am just gonna host few T4 ext keys, I have S#&$ tone of these rly, but, you can go on about leeching bein normal since you hosted a few open lobby void runs like most of the poeple.......bye mr.Leech Edited December 19, 2014 by Duch99pl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackflashcannon Posted December 19, 2014 Author Share Posted December 19, 2014 Geez. You use your one key to contribute in four runs. In result four people with one key each get four times the rewards. How DARE they! missing the point. its the part of you MUST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SquirmyBurrito Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 Has key=Not Leech. Doesn't have key=Leech. leeches are those who arent trying to find keys Wrong. Quoting your own lie does not change the facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackflashcannon Posted December 19, 2014 Author Share Posted December 19, 2014 I am just gonna host few T4 ext keys, I have S#&$ tone of these rly, but, you can go on about leeching bein normal since you hosted a few open lobby void runs like most of the poeple.......bye mr.Leech again, leeches are those who arent trying to find keys Wrong. Quoting your own lie does not change the facts. who said im lying? what proof do you have that im lying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SquirmyBurrito Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 again, leeches are those who arent trying to find keys Wrong. Leeches are those who do not reciprocate a key. Whether or not they're actively trying to farm them is completely irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flamingfighter Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 so "profit numbs the feeling?" Yes, "profit numbs the feeling" of guilt people get when they live off of other people's hard work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackflashcannon Posted December 19, 2014 Author Share Posted December 19, 2014 Wrong. Leeches are those who do not reciprocate a key. Whether or not they're actively trying to farm them is completely irrelevant. its completely relevant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J4CKY Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 Has key=Not Leech. Doesn't have key=Leech. leeches are those who arent trying to find keys gr8 b8 m8 i r8 8/8 Seriously though just stop bothering with him, take note of his username tell friends/clans/alliances not to invite him to void runs and move on with your life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SquirmyBurrito Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 its completely relevant No, it isn't. If I bum a cigarette off someone it doesn't matter whether or not I'm also working towards being able to pay for them on my own. If I panhandle for change, it doesn't matter whether or not I'm also working towards making my own money. Leeching is leeching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gen.KiTeer Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 missing the point. its the part of you MUST NOPE. noone makes you forming a keyshare group. you can either find a key yourself, or buy one in trade chat, or trade for one in trade chat, or buy the parts directly in trade chat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flamingfighter Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 Wrong. Leeches are those who do not reciprocate a key. Whether or not they're actively trying to farm them is completely irrelevant. We seem to be in agreement, but for funsies I want to ask you how you feel about "You leech off me today if I can leech off you tomorrow". Is at that point it considered leeching? Example: Today I put up a Mesa Key for my friend and get him a Mesa part he needs. He does not reciprocate a key. Next week, He puts up a T4 sabotage for a thing I need and I do not reciprocate a key at that time either. Would you consider this process an extended reciprocation, justifiable leeching, or is this still "bad"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duch99pl Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 ughhh...game updates...I quess I am stuck here ..... with mr leech... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackflashcannon Posted December 19, 2014 Author Share Posted December 19, 2014 No, it isn't. If I bum a cigarette off someone it doesn't matter whether or not I'm also working towards being able to pay for them on my own. If I panhandle for change, it doesn't matter whether or not I'm also working towards making my own money. Leeching is leeching. hey, hey guess what? not once have i seen my manager not pay back one of my coworkers cause she borrowed a cigarette from him, because she always gave him one back when she bought hers. begging for money is leeching yes. Im not begging for parts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostSwordsman Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 (edited) Funny how the term "leeching" only gained this negative connotation it now has, and has also recently become a 'problem' (hint:it's not a problem) ever since Mesa came out. Before the triple grind/RNG wall necessary to acquire Mesa was a thing, "leeching" was a term that wasn't used very often on these forums. The most anyone saw it used was back in U13 when everyone was trying to get Hydroid, since that was one of the larger "keyshare" fevers that plagued the community. Throughout all of U13 and U14, and half of U15, keysharing void keys wasn't seen very often and a lot of void mission lobbies were run by one guy with keys. We saw an increase in keysharing when T4 keys came out, but it still wasn't a problem if people didn't have a key. It's only been very recently that people have become very strict about other players having keys, and annoyingly getting unnecessarily upset about others not having keys and playing the game with them. Edited December 19, 2014 by GhostSwordsman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SquirmyBurrito Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 (edited) We seem to be in agreement, but for funsies I want to ask you how you feel about "You leech off me today if I can leech off you tomorrow". Is at that point it considered leeching? Example: Today I put up a Mesa Key for my friend and get him a Mesa part he needs. He does not reciprocate a key. Next week, He puts up a T4 sabotage for a thing I need and I do not reciprocate a key at that time either. Would you consider this process an extended reciprocation, justifiable leeching, or is this still "bad"? I still see it as leeching at the time with it being an extended reciprocation overall. I do not see leeching as an inherently bad thing. Leeching is only bad when it wasn't agreed upon (if I join a keyshare group and leave when it is my turn, that is bad. But if I host a run for keyless players their leeching isn't bad). hey, hey guess what? not once have i seen my manager not pay back one of my coworkers cause she borrowed a cigarette from him, because she always gave him one back when she bought hers. begging for money is leeching yes. Im not begging for parts Hey guess what? Your manager isn't every person in the world. You are begging for runs which is practically the same as begging for parts. Edited December 20, 2014 by SquirmyBurrito Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackflashcannon Posted December 19, 2014 Author Share Posted December 19, 2014 Before the triple grind/RNG wall necessary to acquire Mesa was a thing, "leeching" was a term that wasn't used very often on these forums. The most anyone saw it used was back in U13 when everyone was trying to get Hydroid, since that was one of the larger "keyshare" fevers that plagued the community. vay hek had a guranteed nav drop on shipyard tilesets when alarm was on, not needing keysharing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gen.KiTeer Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 (edited) ... and annoyingly getting unnecessarily upset about others not having keys and playing the game with them. I agree with you but the thing is, i dont mind ppl without keys in my group. But I do mind when those players join an advertised keysharing group and pretend to contribute to it but then dont. Edited December 19, 2014 by CruelMaiden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackflashcannon Posted December 19, 2014 Author Share Posted December 19, 2014 Hey guess what? Your manager isn't ever person in the world. You are begging for runs which is practically the same as begging for parts. quote me where i said i was beging for runs, i wanna know when Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xkillo32 Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 i have done my fair share with hosting open voids, so i am by far not lazy good sir hey look, would you tell your friends to pay for a ride? lol u havent been here that long yes i obviously haven't that is why i have 1.6k posts and im a mr 13 atm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaSnipe11 Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 Throughout all of U13 and U14, and half of U15, keysharing void keys wasn't seen very often and a lot of void mission lobbies were run by one guy with keys. We saw an increase in keysharing when T4 keys came out, but it still wasn't a problem if people didn't have a key. It's only been very recently that people have become very strict about other players having keys, and annoyingly getting unnecessarily upset about others not having keys and playing the game with them. Couldnt agree more, but i'm curious as to why this has happened. Hmmm (<--- not sarcasm I seriously dont know XD) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SquirmyBurrito Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 (edited) quote me where i said i was beging for runs, i wanna know when All of these posts imply that you are attempting to get taken along on runs where you can not provide a key in return. The fact that you are complaining and calling people stingy also implies that you want to be taken along. Meaning you are begging for runs. Your method of begging is antagonizing in nature (which is pretty counterproductive if you ask me), but that doesn't change the fact that you are indeed begging to be taken on runs. Also, the quote located right below this one features by far the most stupid argument I have seen in this thread. That argument could be used for everything IE- "Homelessness wouldn't exist if people were generous enough to let them live with them." this subject wouldnt exist if people were generous enough to have open matches i have done my fair share with hosting open voids, so i am by far not lazy good sir hey look, would you tell your friends to pay for a ride? lol u havent been here that long i am genuinely trying to get keys, so im not accepting this "profit numbs the feeling." good mindset for keeping friends again, leeches are those who arent trying to find keys, i am though so im not a leech no its not Edited December 19, 2014 by SquirmyBurrito Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackflashcannon Posted December 19, 2014 Author Share Posted December 19, 2014 Couldnt agree more, but i'm curious as to why this has happened. Hmmm (<--- not sarcasm I seriously dont know XD) because they dont want the "leeches" to drain from their profit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reltats Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 making sure the board is finished is contribution enough tyvm The things I want to say in response to this would probably get me in a good bit of trouble. Lets sum it with profanity profanity your profanity stupid profanity profanity more profanity and exceedingly rude things. I swear to god I really hope this is a troll thread, because if its not then humanity is truly doomed if there are more people like you out there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackflashcannon Posted December 19, 2014 Author Share Posted December 19, 2014 All of these posts imply that you are attempting to get taken along on runs where you can not provide a key in return. The fact that you are complaining and calling people stingy also implies that you want to be taken along. Meaning you are begging for runs. Your method of begging is antagonizing in nature (which is pretty counterproductive if you ask me), but that doesn't change the fact that you are indeed begging to be taken on runs. oh look, no quote. ttyl then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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