geninrising Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 (edited) Allow the void trader to accept ducats or some other currency to purchase prime parts that are not on Prime Access currently. You could even prevent the purchase of Prime parts from the current PA and the previous one to allow for a certain amount of platinum purchasing for trading to ensure the trading economy still drives plat purchasing. An alternative is simply to have an exchange on a complete item basis. By this I mean trade say 4 parts (number is just a sugestion) from one piece of gear for another part of that same gear. In the case of nova prime you could trade say 3 nova prime chassis and a nova prime system for a nova prime helm, or 2 nova prime helms and 2 nova prime systems for a nova prime chassis. However you could not trade say 2 rhino prime chassis, a frost prime helm and an ember prime systems for a Nova prime chassis or any other prime part, becuse they are not all from the same completed item. This would mean you will have to farm for parts for that specific prime gear, however if you get lots of parts for that gear item, you could trade those excess parts for the missing piece you need to actually make the set. Easily fixed, hours and hours of frustration alleviated, entire community is happy with the void and looking forward to each and every prime release rather than dreading the grind. If they want it fast get PA if they want it earlier than waiting for Baron to get it, suffer the RNG problem. If they are patient, get it later. WIN WIN WIN Edited January 15, 2015 by geninrising Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fastwaffle Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 i was kinda expecting the void trader to do exactly that buuuut man was i disipointed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnagar Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Never gonna happen. Tho If it does, I'd poop myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helch0rn Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 All of my yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oberonight Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 +1 Simple yet Beautiful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akira_him Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Allow the void trader to accept ducats or some other currency to purchase prime parts that are not on Prime Access currently. You could even prevent the purchase of Prime parts from the current PA and the previous one to allow for a certain amount of platinum purchasing for trading to ensure the trading economy still drives plat purchasing. Easily fixed, hours and hours of frustration alleviated, entire community is happy with the void and looking forward to each and every prime release rather than dreading the grind. If they want it fast get PA if they want it earlier than waiting for Baron to get it, suffer the RNG problem. If they are patient, get it later. WIN WIN WIN Sounds fair, I won't mind if these cause my like thousands of ducats, at least I will have motivation to do void missions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShardsSuperior Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Yeah! We finally got a token system. Now, let's use it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geninrising Posted January 3, 2015 Author Share Posted January 3, 2015 Bump to allow more people an opportunity to chime in and hopefully get some notice of our resident DEvs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenror Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 +1 to this. At first i thought the void vendor as this all about.... sadly it was selling some golden man-bra and core-credit-sink mods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vadrigos Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 This what the Void trader was supposed to be for. Instead DE turned it into another grind-sink... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twilight053 Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Ikr? I don't mind spending 500 ducats or 100000 credits for a part that I HAVE NOT GOT FOR 120 VOIDS. Instead it's another grind-fest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UltimateSpinDash Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 This what the Void trader was supposed to be for. Instead DE turned it into another grind-sink... That is what players asked for. DE made it clear in the devstreams that Void Trader would offer items unique to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geninrising Posted January 4, 2015 Author Share Posted January 4, 2015 Just a bump for some more feedback! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geninrising Posted January 4, 2015 Author Share Posted January 4, 2015 Bump to try to round up more feedback. Thus far 100% positive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InvaderMEEN Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 This would be friggin' awesome, as a lot of people I know thought the Void Trader would act this way from the get-go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UltimateSpinDash Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 This would be friggin' awesome, as a lot of people I know thought the Void Trader would act this way from the get-go. Those people didn't watch the devstreams, right? I don't really see the need for the above suggestion, since items from old prime accesses become more common over time, and the current (and even previous) Prime Access is exempt from this according to OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krak_Nihilus Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 I like this idea, bumping for more attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InvaderMEEN Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Those people didn't watch the devstreams, right? I don't really see the need for the above suggestion, since items from old prime accesses become more common over time, and the current (and even previous) Prime Access is exempt from this according to OP. There's no reason why the Void Trader can't be BOTH a way to exchange prime parts AND a provider of exclusive items.There is still plenty of need, despite older prime parts being more common RNG always winds up screwing people over and trade chat is a nightmare. I don't think 100ish Void run's worth of Prime Parts for Those Few Prime Parts You Still Need isn't unreasonable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loswaith Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 DE had a great oppertuity with the 'Void' Trader to actually assist in alleviating the grind for void, unfortunatly they insted just added to it. How the guy even has the title of Void Trader, is beyond me as he has nothing to do with the void at all (a machine converts the void parts to Ducats, and he takes ducats) as nothing he offers actually has any proof of coming from the void anyway. Sure it is labled Prime gear, but given Tenno are in the void (actually it seems every man and his dog can get into the void these days) all the time and collectivly have never found any thing the trader offers, making it a strech to say it is actually things from the void he is offering and not some home made trinkets with the prime label added. Sadly as much as it would be nice to see something like this DE had plenty of sugestions and oppertunities to do something like that already (even if it's only a small pool of prime parts offered each time). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrBorris Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 See DE? This is how you compromise. This will not dig into your pockets and at the same time make a very happy community. On a side note, transfers will not be 1:1 of course, you have to give more than you get (Mr. Ti'Keer has to make something right?), even a 5:1 would be okay, just something to help those cursed by RNGesus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akira_him Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 (edited) Those people didn't watch the devstreams, right? I don't really see the need for the above suggestion, since items from old prime accesses become more common over time, and the current (and even previous) Prime Access is exempt from this according to OP. DE said there will be no PvP in DS, too so what they said is not important Edited January 5, 2015 by akira_him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geninrising Posted January 5, 2015 Author Share Posted January 5, 2015 Those people didn't watch the devstreams, right? I don't really see the need for the above suggestion, since items from old prime accesses become more common over time, and the current (and even previous) Prime Access is exempt from this according to OP. This has nothing to do with how the weighted RNG changes over time. I am well aware of how this works. What I am trying to address here is the overall effects that RNG have on the public PERIOD. Currently we are surrounded by individuals sick to death of RNG being in every single facet of our gameplay. We are currently involved with RNG in everything from the damage we do in combat, the resources we farm, the prime parts we farm, the frames we farm, and now whether we can even farm the frames(see the large portion of the community that cannot even attempt to get Mesa due to their inability to acquire coordinates). What I am proposing is an addition to Baron that would allow us to make all those hours we grind to no avail to get a SINGLE part we are stuck without for days on end, attainable within reason. All I am trying to get across to DE is that here is an easy way to ensure they get their monies worth out of any Prime access they offer, and at the same time in one fell swoop SOLVE one of the most massive complaints the community has that DE has yet to come up with a solution for. As far as 99% of the community is concerned, the primary gripe we have with this game is the unending battle with RNG. This is a compromise that EVERYONE would be very satisfied with and would not hurt the developers bottom dollar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geninrising Posted January 5, 2015 Author Share Posted January 5, 2015 Weigh in folks. Nothing will change if we do not make the request en masse. We need to make it clear how badly RNG affects our overall outlook on this great game. The only way that all parties involved will become satisfied with how the game works is if we ensure that DE recognizes our need for mechanics that can, when properly implemented reduce ANY amount of frustration possible. RNGesus is an entity that most of us have grown to despise and beyond that we must keep an eye towards newer individuals that entire this game. We as veterans understand that RNG is a horrible necessary beast for this particular game, however think on the amount of frustration this system has incurred. Now think about this, if you were a new player and had inside knowledge from a friend, would you sit down to face all that grind? Would you wade through all of the mastery fodder to reach that MR all over again with no rewards to speak of at the top? Or would you walk away and find a game with less rng and more opportunities to acquire the things you want? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
420degreequicksopeswag Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Allow the void trader to accept ducats or some other currency to purchase prime parts that are not on Prime Access currently. Something has been around for a very long time... This thing is known as trading. DE has already solved the grind/RNG for prime parts, the only difference being that trading uses plat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaHorseman Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 This makes some extremely good sense. So of course DE will take months/years to implement (if at all) /sarcasm. I like it, and I would think the ratio for parts would have to be high to ensure that the Void parts are still pricey, but not that hard to attain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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